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I blame Paul Martin and Jack Johnson
I did a few pages back. It's essentially a 6th round pick and Sundqvist.
Yea, you get it.
I did a few pages back. It's essentially a 6th round pick and Sundqvist.
dropping 20 spots and giving up a prospect for a 4th line player is still bad asset management. spin it however you like.
Picking 31st is not the same as picking in the top 10, however you'd like to spin it either.
The idea of this being a deterrent has to stop. If you want to argue that he is physical and can play some, whatever. But this deterrent stuff just doesn't exist. The Pens had Asham, Godard, and Engelland the night of the Isles' gong show.
dropping 20 spots and giving up a prospect for a 4th line player is still bad asset management. spin it however you like.
I'm spinning so much, I think I need to sit down for a bit.
Please help me understand what "that cost" is!
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A prospect who still isn't NHL ready, will not amount to anything more than a 4th liner and is waiver eligible.
Picking 31st is not the same as picking in the top 10, however you'd like to spin it either.
A prospect who still isn't NHL ready, will not amount to anything more than a 4th liner and is waiver eligible.
They primarily cost themselves the opportunity to use that first-round pick to trade for a real player in a position of need to actually make the team better. This is a serious opportunity cost, because they need both a 3C and another good D, and they probably don't have enough cap space to address both at UFA prices.
They primarily cost themselves the opportunity to use that first-round pick to trade for a real player in a position of need to actually make the team better. This is a serious opportunity cost, because they need both a 3C and another good D, and they probably don't have enough cap space to address both at UFA prices.
All we have left must be yes men. How does no one in that management group cut the cord during that trade call. Like beyond stupid. Could have just re-signed Sestito for free
But in a weak draft, is there REALLY that much difference between picking 31st and 52nd? I don't remember who did the big round-up on draft order a few years back, but if I remember right, there really wasn't much difference between picking outside of the top 10 in the first round and the second round.
it's still an overpayment lol.
I don't care about the picks for picking. Nobody they pick at any slot is going to be ready to help the Crosby/Malkin Pens win another cup.
I care about the picks for trading. First-round picks return good players. Second-round picks return Ron Hainsey. I'd say that's an important difference.
it's not, but it's better to pick 31 than 51
I don't care about the picks for picking. Nobody they pick at any slot is going to be ready to help the Crosby/Malkin Pens win another cup.
I care about the picks for trading. First-round picks return good players. Second-round picks return Ron Hainsey. I'd say that's an important difference.
A few things here.
#1 Other GMs are looking at the same draft. That second round pick is slightly less valuable than the first we traded. We could easily flip that for a D-man.
#2 We are looking at just under 19 million in cap space right now. After we resign the RFAs, we probably still have 6-7 million to address the second needs.
#3 Reaves does make the team better
Okay then, why is it better? What's the drafting strategy here? What changes?
Also, let's take into account that not everybody thinks there's a difference there, statistically speaking.
http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-expected-value-of-nhl-draft-picks-1.317819
So, really, the question comes down to-- do you think your BPA is going to be on the board at 31 vs 51? Or do you consider the draft weak enough that you're going to be going more off-the-board and thus drafting position doesn't matter as much?
I don't care about the picks for picking. Nobody they pick at any slot is going to be ready to help the Crosby/Malkin Pens win another cup.
I care about the picks for trading. First-round picks return good players. Second-round picks return Ron Hainsey. I'd say that's an important difference.
Wait, why is it better to pick 31st than 51st is an actual question?