Penguins Off-Season Thread: You’ll laugh, you’ll cry, you’ll hurl

[dogthateats]

 

[Gurglesons]

Everything after we expended a 8 OA on him is a horrid nightmare. Like watching him in the WJC and wondering if he was really as lethargic as he looked in the D zone and then coming into camp out of shape the year he was supposedly a lock for the big club, etc. etc.

Huh? Pouliot trended really well until 15-16.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Everything after we expended a 8 OA on him is a horrid nightmare. Like watching him in the WJC and wondering if he was really as lethargic as he looked in the D zone and then coming into camp out of shape the year he was supposedly a lock for the big club, etc. etc.

I forget what event or gathering it was, but I distinctly remember a "holy shit that's a professional athlete's physique" picture, prominently featuring Pouliot's "I took the past 4 years off" moobs.

 

[Al Smith]

I remember him being touted by some a as potential Letang replacement and when I finally saw him play in game action I was like "You guys mean only all the bad parts and at half speed? Terrific."

the Staal trade worked out ok with Dumo but could have been fantastic if Shero hadn’t been so obsessed with puck moving defensemen. And just think of all the years the Pens HF site missed out defending Tom Wilson had we drafted him instead of DP.

 

[Khelandros]

One day everybody, maybe even NHL GM's, will realize that a good goalie in Arizona is a product of the Arizona system. As soon as they leave for another team they turn into a pumpkin.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

the Staal trade worked out ok with Dumo but could have been fantastic if Shero hadn’t been so obsessed with puck moving defensemen. And just think of all the years the Pens HF site missed out defending Tom Wilson had we drafted him instead of DP.

I guess it isn't worth looking backward on, now. And that draft kinda sucked, in general.

But I mean... Forsberg was sitting right there and conventional wisdom should have made that pick obvious. But Shero had to galaxy brain things... and in Pittsburgh, no less. IIRC there was a mixture of silence and some scattered boos haha

But yeah... only top ten pick they will have this entire era and they do... that.

 

[Gurglesons]

I guess it isn't worth looking backward on, now. And that draft kinda sucked, in general.

But I mean... Forsberg was sitting right there and conventional wisdom should have made that pick obvious. But Shero had to galaxy brain things... and in Pittsburgh, no less. IIRC there was a mixture of silence and some scattered boos haha

But yeah... only top ten pick they will have this entire era and they do... that.

Hard to get mad about a draft where we acquired

A top four D that led to a back to back Cup.
A goaltender that was the starter that led to a back to back Cup.
Sundqvist who was technically used as an asset.
Our current 3C.

Pouliot turned out to suck ass and was an off the cuff choice, but hard to fault the scouts when they pulled what else they did out of that draft.

 

[Al Smith]

I guess it isn't worth looking backward on, now. And that draft kinda sucked, in general.

But I mean... Forsberg was sitting right there and conventional wisdom should have made that pick obvious. But Shero had to galaxy brain things... and in Pittsburgh, no less. IIRC there was a mixture of silence and some scattered boos haha

But yeah... only top ten pick they will have this entire era and they do... that.

I remember Pierre calling it just before it was official and loving it. Should have been a bad sign.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

It was perfectly predictable that a GM who did the bare minimum to surround his generational superstar centers with talent would pass on Forsberg. It was unthinkable to me that he would pass on the big, physical, talented NA blueliner in Trouba.

 

[dogthateats]

Oh cool the 2012 draft

 

[Al Smith]

Hard to get mad about a draft where we acquired

A top four D that led to a back to back Cup.
A goaltender that was the starter that led to a back to back Cup.
Sundqvist who was technically used as an asset.
Our current 3C.

Pouliot turned out to suck ass and was an off the cuff choice, but hard to fault the scouts when they pulled what else they did out of that draft.

Well drafts of 18 year olds are largely a crap shoot, but you hope for better from a top 10 pick.

 

[Gurglesons]

Well drafts of 18 year olds are largely a crap shoot, but you hope for better from a top 10 pick.

I get your point, but I mean. That top ten was awful all around. Reilly and Dumba are really the only effective players left.

1	Nail Yakupov (RW)	Russia	Edmonton Oilers	Sarnia Sting (OHL)
2	Ryan Murray (D)	Canada	Columbus Blue Jackets	Everett Silvertips (WHL)
3	Alex Galchenyuk (C)	United States	Montreal Canadiens	Sarnia Sting (OHL)
4	Griffin Reinhart (D)	Canada	New York Islanders	Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL)
5	Morgan Rielly (D)	Canada	Toronto Maple Leafs	Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL)
6	Hampus Lindholm (D)	Sweden	Anaheim Ducks	Rogle BK (Allsvenskan)
7	Matt Dumba (D)	Canada	Minnesota Wild	Red Deer Rebels (WHL)
8	Derrick Pouliot (D)	Canada	Pittsburgh Penguins (from Carolina)1	Portland Winterhawks (WHL)
9	Jacob Trouba (D)	United States	Winnipeg Jets	US NTDP (USHL)
10	Slater Koekkoek (D)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

This is good shit. Say what you want about Burke's penchant for truculence, but he seems like one hell of a funny dude, and he's a great f***in' person to boot.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Trade rumor: Rangers interested in acquiring Evgeny Kuznetsov from Capitals

Apparently Kuznetsov is Drury's Eichel backup plan. Oof.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Everything after we expended a 8 OA on him is a horrid nightmare. Like watching him in the WJC and wondering if he was really as lethargic as he looked in the D zone and then coming into camp out of shape the year he was supposedly a lock for the big club, etc. etc.

We all knew Forsberg should’ve been the pick. It was a slam dunk he fell to us. I was in disbelief we didn’t take him.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Hard to get mad about a draft where we acquired

A top four D that led to a back to back Cup.
A goaltender that was the starter that led to a back to back Cup.
Sundqvist who was technically used as an asset.
Our current 3C.

Pouliot turned out to suck ass and was an off the cuff choice, but hard to fault the scouts when they pulled what else they did out of that draft.

Just to clarify I meant that 2012 was an underwhelming draft in general and a bit more crap-shooty than most.

The Pens did well in the later rounds. As they almost always did under Shero.

I never knew how accurate this was but I always heard Ray got the biggest say and final word in round 1 and let his scouts take over after that.

 

[Gurglesons]

Just to clarify I meant that 2012 was an underwhelming draft in general and a bit more crap-shooty than most.

The Pens did well in the later rounds. As they almost always did under Shero.

I never knew how accurate this was but I always heard Ray got the biggest say and final word in round 1 and let his scouts take over after that.

Shero himself supposedly said this. I forget where.

Seems like bullshit though. I imagine all of his picks were technically made by the scouts.

 

[SEALBound]

Trade rumor: Rangers interested in acquiring Evgeny Kuznetsov from Capitals

Apparently Kuznetsov is Drury's Eichel backup plan. Oof.

Given recent trades, I'd be shopping Kuzy all over.

 

[Gumbercules]

 

[Rakell67]

Shero himself supposedly said this. I forget where.

Seems like bullshit though. I imagine all of his picks were technically made by the scouts.

Except for 2006. He wanted Backstrom but his scouts were pushing for Staal.

 

[HandshakeLine]

This is good shit. Say what you want about Burke's penchant for truculence, but he seems like one hell of a funny dude, and he's a great f***in' person to boot.

Burke seems like a genuinely interesting dude to talk to.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

"The IMPORTANT thing was... I had an onion on my belt. Which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions... because of the war."

Gimme 5 bees for a quarter.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Madden does have some sources so this may be legit.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Makes sense to me. Come back as a coach or special assistant or whatever and if the team doesn’t get off to a good start they make the change.

 

[Andy99]