News Article: Penguins name Andy Chiodo goaltending coach; Mike Buckley relieved of duties

[Scandale du Jour]

So wait are we hoping Chiodo does a better job or we know he can do a better job.

Like with everything else, we like to pretend that we are experts.

 

[Pens x]

Good point. I think timing wise this does sound like Hextall deciding he's probably not going to get another goalie unless things go really sideways, and therefore moving onto a guy who's helped Jarry and DeSmith more than the present guy.

I still have hope that Hextall isn’t dumb enough to roll with DeSmith and Jarry again. He made the exact same mistake with Elliott and Neuvrith. He also kept a coach for way too long.

It’s almost like he’s making the same mistakes here.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Yeah, the only way we think we will know if Chiodo is doing a good job is if Jarry and DeSmith have a good season.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Considering how our goaltending was the past handful of seasons, this can't really be a surprise

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Considering how our goaltending was the past handful of seasons, this can't really be a surprise

Yeah I mean... we can debate the true merits of goaltending coach but the fact of the matter is that results have been suboptimal for years and in the end Buckley was someone else's idea, anyway. So a change seems warranted.

Hmmmmmm... sorta brings up some other obvious points as it relates to coaching, no?

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I agree that a change needed to be made, but I also agree that a goalie coach isn't gonna make an awful goalie play well, or a good goalie play awful hockey. It's one of those "f*** it, what's the worst that can happen" moves, imo.

 

[Peat]

Yeah I mean... we can debate the true merits of the position but the fact of the matter is that results have been suboptimal for years and in the end Buckley was someone else's idea, anyway. So a change seems warranted.

Hmmmmmm... sorta brings up some other obvious points as it relates to coaching, no?

*looks at Burke's recent comments re Sullivan* Not sure I'd hold your breath on that

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

*looks at Burke's recent comments re Sullivan* Not sure I'd hold your breath on that

Oh I'm not. Just can't help but continuously side-eye that elephant standing around over there.

He was also just named to team USA. And lord knows I've never heard of a coach get promoted to such a lofty position then immediately fail spectacularly at a catastrophic and international level, almost immediately unraveling his entire career to that point.

 

[Peat]

Oh I'm not. Just can't help but continuously side-eye that elephant standing around over there.

He was also just named to team USA. And lord knows I've never heard of a coach get promoted to such a lofty position then immediately fail spectacularly at a catastrophic and international level, almost immediately unraveling his entire career to that point.

Would be ironic.

 

[tom_servo]

Was* typo

Gotta watch the details man. It's very important I'm not mistaken in any way before I attempt a joke response.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Would be ironic.

You spelled "hilarious" wrong.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Praying...

I still don't think Jarry is the issue blokes here are making it out to be. But I'm over trying to explain it to...


Yeah. Nvm.

Since he's from Surrey, it is our job to defend him this year. Prepare yourself for the long haul. It's not gonna be pretty.

 

[dogthateats]

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I don't think Sully is Bylsma. Bylsma was an idiot. Sullivan's a smart coach, and he'll continue to have success in the NHL, but his ego is Jagr-esque. I guess it doesn't really matter when both scenarios result in the bench boss torpedoing his club though.

 

[dogthateats]

 

[Shockmaster]

Buckley should have been fired the day after they were eliminated. Goaltending really started going to shit after Bales left and he took over.

 

[dogthateats]

You got to think the Taglianetti promotion is due to his assist this year.

 

[dogthateats]

 

[cookthebooks]

if you think jarry is physically capable of being an upper echelon goalie - which seems clear - than someone new to try and shape up his mental side of the game seems like a pretty clear path forward.

 

[Gurglesons]

I don't think Sully is Bylsma. Bylsma was an idiot. Sullivan's a smart coach, and he'll continue to have success in the NHL, but his ego is Jagr-esque. I guess it doesn't really matter when both scenarios result in the bench boss torpedoing his club though.

It’ll be interesting to see what the US team looks like.

 

[Peat]

It’ll be interesting to see what the US team looks like.

I really hope there will be NHLers going to so we can get a real feeling for personnel decisions. He's not the only voice involved (Bowman, Guerin, and Vanbiesbrouck also involved) but gotta think he'll have a lot of sway. In particular, curious as to where he'll go with Kyle Connor, who I feel is the most high profile American with lots of offensive skill and not much defence.

 

[Andy99]

to me, it sounds like they waited this long to fire Buckley because they wanted to bring in another goalie, and when that didn’t materialize because prices of vet goalies went through the roof, their backup plan was to try to improve Jarry’s performance by firing his coach…

 

[Gurglesons]

I really hope there will be NHLers going to so we can get a real feeling for personnel decisions. He's not the only voice involved (Bowman, Guerin, and Vanbiesbrouck also involved) but gotta think he'll have a lot of sway. In particular, curious as to where he'll go with Kyle Connor, who I feel is the most high profile American with lots of offensive skill and not much defence.

If NHLers are not going I do not think Sully is.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I just wanna see Sully coaching a team with Kessel on it again.

(Just not this team)

 

[Big McLargehuge]

The timing makes sense if the plan was to wait to see how the goalie market played out. I don't think the odds were too likely Buckley was going to keep that job for much longer one way or another, but who replaced him likely depended on who we would be entering the season with. Same goalies? Change the coach. New goalie? No better time to change the coach.

Always difficult to say how good/bad a job a coach is doing when we're not seeing what is being taught or anything, but suffice to say the results under Buckley have been thoroughly underwhelming enough for a change to be a matter of when and not if. Especially when he was brought primarily for Murray by the previous GM.