Confirmed with Link: Pacioretty Traded to Vegas for Tomas Tatar, Nick Suzuki, 2019 2nd

[26Mats]

John Lu on TSN is saying the deal is contingent on Pacioretty signing a contract with LV .... why is nobody reporting this?

https://www.tsn.ca/video/habs-ice-chips-molson-bergevin-insist-pacioretty-asked-for-a-trade~1484870

It's got to be a done deal. It's all over the press.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

disingenuous? i don't think that's a fair assessment.

Green was perhaps below his prime, but no slouch.
Dekeyser had a breakout year in Tatar's best season.
Kronwall, in his prime, was also a solid puck mover and offensive contributor (coinciding with Tatar's first few seasons).

But they were nothing close to Subban and Markov.

That's like saying, well Pac did have Cammy, Gionta, Cole and Radulov as linemates. Sure, they are no Zetts or Dats, but it's the same for the Ds you mentioned, there are no Markov or Subban on those teams Tatar had.

I didn't mean any disrepect btw

 

[Miller Time]

John Lu on TSN is saying the deal is contingent on Pacioretty signing a contract with LV .... why is nobody reporting this?

https://www.tsn.ca/video/habs-ice-chips-molson-bergevin-insist-pacioretty-asked-for-a-trade~1484870

this better not be true... could be yet another epic fail by an organization that just can't quit screwing up.

how on earth do you let a deal like this break, for a second time, before it is absolutely final???

 

[strongcomp05]

John Lu on TSN is saying the deal is contingent on Pacioretty signing a contract with LV .... why is nobody reporting this?

https://www.tsn.ca/video/habs-ice-chips-molson-bergevin-insist-pacioretty-asked-for-a-trade~1484870

its a done deal man, its gone through the process.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

John Lu on TSN is saying the deal is contingent on Pacioretty signing a contract with LV .... why is nobody reporting this?

https://www.tsn.ca/video/habs-ice-chips-molson-bergevin-insist-pacioretty-asked-for-a-trade~1484870

Because both parties (LV & MP) are negociating right now.

 

[Miller Time]

But they were nothing close to Subban and Markov.

That's like saying, well Pac did have Cammy, Gionta, Cole and Radulov as linemates. Sure, they are no Zetts or Dats, but it's the same for the Ds you mentioned, there are no Markov or Subban on those teams Tatar had.

I didn't mean any disrepect btw

i get what your saying...

personally, I think having Green/Dekeyser/Kronwall on teh back end while playing with the likes of Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Larkin/Nyquist is far better, as far as putting up stats goes, than having PK/Markov and then the motley crew of C's/W's that Patches succeeded with (Radulov, followed by a pretty thin bunch).

then again, Patches game and approach certainly was well suited to playing with dmen with PK & Markov's unique ability... too bad that MB was too incompetent too realize that.

 

[Redux91]

John Lu on TSN is saying the deal is contingent on Pacioretty signing a contract with LV .... why is nobody reporting this?

https://www.tsn.ca/video/habs-ice-chips-molson-bergevin-insist-pacioretty-asked-for-a-trade~1484870

WAS contingent, WAS

if max doesnt sign the offered deal now too bad for vegas, they have him for 1 year anyhow

 

[Wats]

With Tatar being part of the return, we still have a huge glut of wingers. Drouin, Gallagher, Domi, Tatar, Byron, Hudon, Lehks, Shaw, Armia, Scherbak and Deslauriers are all wingers. Drouin may be forced back over to center but that is still way too many wingers. I think it is critical that Hudon, Lehks and Scherbak all get consistent playing time. Who ends up sitting?

Kinda resolves itself with Shaw/Byron injured + lot of the guys being injury prone. Drouin probably continues as C as there is no one else.

Domi - Danault - Gallagher
Tatar - Drouin - Armia
Hudon - Plekanec - Lehkonen
Deslauriers - DLR/Peca - Scherbak

Guessing Scherbak probably sits based on Montreal being Montreal.

 

[Wats]

It's got to be a done deal. It's all over the press.

Think it means more that Pacioretty will sign with Vegas soon.

 

[1909]

I would had preferred Cody Glass + 2nd than Suzuki-Tatar-2nd.

I guess that's the value of an unsigned 30 yo RFA who's just got his worst seasons in years. Patches will score 40 with Karlsson and Smith.

Who's gonna score goals for the Habs this season ? Carey Price ?

 

[theghost1]

Suzuki really is just a tremendous all around hockey player. The only real knock on him is he isn't the biggest guy in the world, but he's not a smurf either.

Brayden Point is only 5'10 he's done alright size is not that important same as skating not everyone can skate like McDavid a player like Gallagher not the best skater but he gets the job done.

 

[The Great Weal]

I would had preferred Cody Glass + 2nd than Suzuki-Tatar-2nd.

I guess that's the value of an unsigned 30 yo RFA who's just got his worst seasons in years. Patches will score 40 with Karlsson and Smith.

Vegas wasn't going to give up Glass for Karlsson, why would they do it for Pacioretty?

 

[1909]

Kinda resolves itself with Shaw/Byron injured + lot of the guys being injury prone. Drouin probably continues as C as there is no one else.

Domi - Danault - Gallagher
Tatar - Drouin - Armia
Hudon - Plekanec - Lehkonen
Deslauriers - DLR/Peca - Scherbak

Guessing Scherbak probably sits based on Montreal being Montreal.

7 forwards 5'11 and less... Good luck !

 

[InAG-P]

I would had preferred Cody Glass + 2nd than Suzuki-Tatar-2nd.

I guess that's the value of an unsigned 30 yo RFA who's just got his worst seasons in years. Patches will score 40 with Karlsson and Smith.

Who's gonna score goals for the Habs this season ? Carey Price ?

Let's not kid ourselves - Vegas wanted to get rid of Tatar. His short tenure in LV did not go over well. You got the 2nd AND Suzuki *because* you were willin got take Tatar too IMO.

 

[1909]

Vegas wasn't going to give up Glass for Karlsson, why would they do it for Pacioretty?

Of course, they would not. It is just my wish. I don't see how the Habs are better now than yesterday.

Patches, Galchenyuk, Radulov, Markov, Sergachev, Eller, Subban..... Good demolition job MB !

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

That was the players vote, I'm pretty sure Subban got one vote, from himself.

Should trade every player who voted for him.

 

[The Great Weal]

Of course, they would not. It is just my wish. I don't see how the Habs are better now than yesterday.

You don't see how the Habs are better by getting a great prospect and someone they can flip for more picks along with another 2nd?

 

[417]

4yrs 28M deal for Pacioretty in Vegas...

About where I thought he'd sign, term is shorter than I thought though.

Year 1: 10.5M
Year 2: 7M
Year 3: 5.25M
Year 4: 5.25M

 

[Redux91]

I would had preferred Cody Glass + 2nd than Suzuki-Tatar-2nd.

I guess that's the value of an unsigned 30 yo RFA who's just got his worst seasons in years. Patches will score 40 with Karlsson and Smith.

Who's gonna score goals for the Habs this season ? Carey Price ?

3 things

-They were never giving anybody Cody Glass.

-If you havent caught on yet ... we arent trying to score goals next year ...strategically..

- Max was supposed to score 40 with Drouin, if you think max scores 40 with karlsson and smith lol i dont know what to tell you

 

[1909]

Let's not kid ourselves - Vegas wanted to get rid of Tatar. His short tenure in LV did not go over well. You got the 2nd AND Suzuki *because* you were willin got take Tatar too IMO.

That 2nd pick will be a late 2nd rounder....

 

[Redux91]

4yrs 28M deal for Pacioretty in Vegas...

About where I thought he'd sign, term is shorter than I thought though.

Wow thats actually a pretty good deal lol, but it would still of been useless for us to sign him, have to look to the future

 

[Whitesnake]

That 2nd pick will be a late 2nd rounder....

Is it Jackets pick or Vegas?

 

[The Great Weal]

4yrs 28M deal for Pacioretty in Vegas...

About where I thought he'd sign, term is shorter than I thought though.

Year 1: 10.5M
Year 2: 7M
Year 3: 5.25M
Year 4: 5.25M

I thought he would get more.

 

[1909]

3 things

-They were never giving anybody Cody Glass.

-If you havent caught on yet ... we arent trying to score goals next year ...strategically..

- Max was supposed to score 40 with Drouin, if you think max scores 40 with karlsson and smith lol i dont know what to tell you

Way easier to score 40 goals in Vegas with a team filled with hardworking players and a great coach than in MTL with that crap.

 

[417]

I thought he would get more.

He's playing in a no-tax state...probably settled for less cause he will bring home more.