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Evander Kane got more and he is much worse than Patches.6X6 is fair, given he will likely decline with age.
Evander Kane got more and he is much worse than Patches.6X6 is fair, given he will likely decline with age.
See my full post above. I disagree.Evander Kane got more and he is much worse than Patches.
Evander Kane never produced without Eichel or ROR. Pacioretty produced with anyone.See my full post above. I disagree.
Evander Kane never produced without Eichel or ROR. Pacioretty produced with anyone.
Last year was 1 bad year. Every player has them. He produced with Danault, Desharnais, Plekanec...etc. Kane never produced with the type of players Pacioretty plays with consistently.Pacioretty did not produce with anyone. He didn't produce last year. And, the year before he didn't produce at all until they took Radulov off of Galchenyuk's line and put him with Pacioretty. Also, playing with Desharnais and Cole or Desharnais and Vanek were good players to play with.
Bottom line, a big part of his game is speed and that is bound to go by the time he's 33, if it hasn't already.
Last year was 1 bad year. Every player has them. He produced with Danault, Desharnais, Plekanec...etc. Kane never produced with the type of players Pacioretty plays with consistently.
I still can't believe they lost Radulov..Pacioretty did not produce with anyone. He didn't produce last year. And, the year before he didn't produce at all until they took Radulov off of Galchenyuk's line and put him with Pacioretty. Also, playing with Desharnais and Cole or Desharnais and Vanek were good players to play with.
Bottom line, a big part of his game is speed and that is bound to go by the time he's 33, if it hasn't already.
Centers are far more impactful than wingers, and Pacioretty never had a top 6 center for even half a season. This isn't even my point. Kane hasn't gotten anywhere near Pacioretty stats despite play with significantly better centers.Saying he produced with Danault is misleading. He produced with Radulov is more like it. Also, he produced with Plekanec when Plekanec was still effective and Gallagher was on the other wing. Same thing with Desharnais - Radulov, Gallagher, and Vanek before his decline were on the other wings.
Centers are far more impactful than wingers, and Pacioretty never had a top 6 center for even half a season. This isn't even my point. Kane hasn't gotten anywhere near Pacioretty stats despite play with significantly better centers.
Except Subban has actually produced more than Weber despite being younger while Kane has never gotten close to Pacioretty...You sound like Weber fans comparing 31 year old Weber to 27 year old Subban when they were traded.
I agree Radulov plays like a center, but aside from him nobody did. He is also turning 30 and not 40 btw. Like I said, he had 1 bad year, aside from that he has always been producing...Wingers like Radulov do the play driving that centers do. It doesn't matter what position he plays. Desharnais was a great playmaker back in the day. But we're not back in the day, we're not talking about what players did in the past. There's no question Pacioretty has done more in the past. We're trying to predict who will do more in the future. I don't see much in Pacioretty beyond 33 and it's even questionable what he'll do moving forward in the faster NHL and now that he's older.
If Pacioretty can produce with anyone why couldn't he produce last year or the year before before Radulov was on his line? Was he playing so well last year but just didn't get the bounces? Or did he float around and do nothing?
Except Subban has actually produced more than Weber despite being younger while Kane has never gotten close to Pacioretty...
I still can't believe they lost Radulov..
Your argument is really bad. I don't know why you keep ignoring what I'm writing, but for the millionth time, Pacioretty had a bad year last year but has produced besides that.Again a false statment. Kane out produced Pacioretty last year. And the year before, Kane was on pace for 33 goals playing with 20 year old Eichel, when he wasn't hurt. Pacioretty had 35 playing with Radulov and Danault.
But ultimately, Kane is 3 years younger. Pacioretty is exiting his prime, Kane is in the middle. I'd take Kane over Pacioretty, based on age, not past production.
Your argument is really bad. I don't know why you keep ignoring what I'm writing, but for the millionth time, Pacioretty had a bad year last year but has produced besides that.
Ror worth 3rd overall? In what world?
What facts have I ignored? It's not my fault you can't read what I said for the past posts and it is 100% true that Kane has never gotten close to Pacioretty besides last year.Your argument is horrendous and you're ignoring facts and making false statements like "Kane has never gotten close to Pacioretty" when in FACT he out produced him last year and the year before was on pace for 2 goals less.
The biggest problem with Pacioretty is that he's a completely useless player on the PP, he excels primarily at ES. How much is a ES defensive/possession goal scoring winger worth?
Who's the comparable?