Rumor: Pacioretty to NYI, ROR to MTL almost happened

[Habs Halifax]

Exactly. I don't like Stastny, but with 18 million available and Tavares saying no to us, we can easily overpay just to have him for 3ish years.

I just wonder if Stastny is interested in playing for the Habs... even if we overpay? Lets say he is not interested. What make him think twice? 3 years at $8M?

 

[The Great Weal]

u know its gonna be 5years tho

I'm talking about what should be done. Not what Bergevin will do. I think we all know how dumb he is to do something like 6.5x6 for him.

 

[scrubadam]

Or you know, keep the pick an have something with long term value instead.

ROR has long term value. Would be the best habs C since Pleks was good 4 years ago. Would help insulate Phoeling/Drouin/Kotka in the next 2/3 years.

then he can be moved when he has 1 or 2 years left on his contract, he will still be 31/32 at the time since he is only 27.

 

[The Great Weal]

I just wonder if Stastny is interested in playing for the Habs... even if we overpay? Lets say he is not interested. What make him think twice? 3 years at $8M?

I think I read that he was interested, forget where. Don't think he would ask for over 7.

 

[Clearedwaivers]

Fire MB before he trades away our lottery pick for ROR

This is a fear of mine at this point. He probably thinks our first next year wil be back in the 25 over all range again, so it's not a stretch for him to deal it away.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I'm talking about what should be done. Not what Bergevin will do. I think we all know how dumb he is to do something like 6.5x6 for him.

ya iknow.... are you still wondering what bergy plan is... he sold it to molson

his only move was max domi and it was shit

 

[scrubadam]

The question is what addition is the Sabres asking for? Cause I think they are asking for us to add... even in a sign and trade. Or do we take on Moulson's contract to help them go after other targets?

Habs should have leverage here. Acquire ROR before July 1st and pay him the bonus while also taking on Moulson for one year. They get Patch at a discount rate for one year where they need scoring on LW and they can also negotiate a sign and trade. Habs with ROR, a buyout on Moulson, and Patch gone = what kind of cap space for the Habs? 21 players signed with about $8.5M in cap space. We could still go after Stastny.

I don't think the Sabers want Max, they wanted the pick. But I like taking on Moulson to sweeten the deal.

If we got ROR I would stay away from Paul and target Brassard. He could be had cheap or even as a dump from the Pens. 1 year left at 5 Mill. Him and Danault could split time as 2/3C. If things go south then dump him at the deadline.

 

[The Great Weal]

ya iknow.... are you still wondering what bergy plan is... he sold it to molson

his only move was max domi and it was ****

I doubt that will be his only move. He's going to give Johnson a horrific contract because there is no way you can start the season with that dcore again.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I think I read that he was interested, forget where. Don't think he would ask for over 7.

I think he would be after term. 5 or 6 year deal and he probably gets it from some team. Getting him for 3 years from age 32-35 is possible but requires overpayment IMO.

 

[habsgirl5000]

This makes me sad. Dealing Max and getting ROR out of it would have been huge.

how would it be huge?

what production we lose from patch is just replaced (at best) by ROR....its another sideways move

 

[FormerLurker]

ROR for a 3 oa

****ing idiot

Who is the idiot in this instance, I'm curious? Is it Botterill for asking for the 3rd for ROR, or is it Bergevin for refusing the deal? Or perhaps it's the people who get worked up over things that never happened.

 

[The Great Weal]

I think he would be after term. 5 or 6 year deal and he probably gets it from some team. Getting him for 3 years from age 32-35 is possible but requires overpayment IMO.

It absolutely would. But ehe would get what, like 5.5 for 6 years? Maybe 7.5 for shorter term.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I doubt that will be his only move. He's going to give Johnson a horrific contract because there is no way you can start the season with that dcore again.

so the plan is to get an even worse dcore

and no centers

good jack hugues odds

 

[scrubadam]

BUFFALO will likely keep him

I think he is gone, maybe not to us but to someone. And BUF was going to make the trade according to the article so if the draft played out differently ROR would be a hab and Max would be an islander.

 

[NeptunesTrident]

You know...O'Reilly would have crazy value if Buffalo was to keep him past July 1st. Bonus paid and teams looking for a center who missed out on Tavares and Stastny.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I think he is gone, maybe not to us but to someone. And BUF was going to make the trade according to the article so if the draft played out differently ROR would be a hab and Max would be an islander.

STL it is i guess

 

[WeThreeKings]

Miller got 5.35x5 so yes LAs offer was incredibly insulting to Max.

 

[tazsub3]

Trade our first just like he was suppose to draft Tkachuk.......will be standing by for your prediction that will never happen

I am far from being an MB apologist, but many on this board just complain to complain ..

 

[G0bias]

Who would you have taken at 12 assuming Dobson is off the board?

Kravtsov, Berggren, Farabee, Smith

 

[Dannyhab]

Miller got 5.35x5 so yes LAs offer was incredibly insulting to Max.

What was LA's offer?

 

[Habs Halifax]

It absolutely would. But ehe would get what, like 5.5 for 6 years? Maybe 7.5 for shorter term.

Hard to say. He is the best center available after Tavares and there will be interest. I think we would have to overpay in any term cause our team is not competitive and other teams interested might be a better fit for him if he wants to win.

 

[Habs Halifax]

What was LA's offer?

I have yet to see this released. Anybody hear? I am also curious

 

[WeThreeKings]

What was LA's offer?

6x6

 

[Dannyhab]

No wonder he fired his agent. Max's scoring should earn him minimum 7X6

 

[26Mats]

No wonder he fired his agent. Max's scoring should earn him minimum 7X6

6X6 is fair, given he will likely decline with age. If he were Evander Kane's age, he'd deserve more. But since he's older, he deserves less long term. He's probable worth 7.5 on a contract that pays him through 33 years old, playing with a good playmaker. But that's still a risk I wouldn't take.