Speculation: Ownership Saga: Coyote's Renaissance (Read Post #1)

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  1. RABBIT

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    I'm pretty sure Chavira is a nay, didn't he unseat Joyce Clarke, who got the boot for being too pro-Coyotes? I thought he and Weiers basically got in by opposing the Jamison deal.
     
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    It could pass. If it were going to, why wouldn't they say so?
     
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    Four years in and we're still asking why and trying to justify things? C'mon rt, we're past that :laugh:

    One thing that I didn't think about because we were so wrapped up in the forced vote today. The NHL have their BoG meeting tomorrow morning, obviously they're not going to vote on relocation with this specter of a vote hanging around, but you figure they'll have something to say about the situation.
     
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    If I was Maloney and was given the news that my team was about to relocate and put myself out of a job....all hell would break loose.

    I would walk into my office wearing nothing but a smile holding a screamo CD to play while I fire Dave Tippett, trade Yandle, Doan, Ekman-Larsson and the rights to Mike Smith to Columbus for their broadcaster. Followed by a call to the Florida Panthers in which I would trade Vermette, all of our prospects and draft picks for Peter Mueller and a fine tip Sharpie. I would tell Vrbata, Hanzal, Korpikoski, Boedker and Moss that Gary Bettman called their mothers ugly and that he wants them to join me on my exit out of the NHL, forming a group of pissed off investors to help me purchase the arena in Seattle as our informal Man-Cave/Bachelor pad. I would then go to Jobing.com area and steal all of their AA batteries and hide all of their remote controls in the nearest desert. I would then make my escape via the infamous Flying Taco Bell Chalupa, leaving the NHL with a roster consisting of:


    Bissonette- Beer Vendor -Intel Guy
    Security Guard- Gordon -Klinkhammer
    Ticket Scanner- Howler -Janitor
    Chipchura- Tyson Nash- Sarah McLellan

    Michalek-Time Keeper
    Guy who opens penalty box- Schlemko
    Morris- Arena DJ

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    Solid.
     
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    I like that Mueller is still a healthy scratch, apparently.
     
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    And that you managed to resign Boyd in the middle of all that wheeling and dealing :handclap:
     
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    Finally decided to leave hockey and follow his religious views. Tough call between him and the Sharpie, however.
     
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    Boyd stuck to his guns and tried to block a car in the parking lot wearing nothing but shinpads and a helmet, he will remain with the team out of pure loyalty.
     
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    I wonder why... :sarcasm:
     
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    that made me laugh, right there.
     
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    Well in all fairness unless SMG was guaranteeing 41+ event per year (several of which are not on weekends), with similar overall attendance and demographics it doesn't make sense to compare their AMF.
     
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    I don't think you are following. There's a fixed cost associated with the arena, and the contract is roughly worth $6.5m based on comparables in other cities. Many teams get less or no payment at all just for the chance to run a lucrative arena. The idea that Glendale should go above industry norms for '41+ dates' is laughable but not the main problem here.

    RSE apparently needs $15m or so to get the Fortress loan. They can't just 'keep the revenue streams' because they have zero credit worthiness. They need the city to guarantee that money ($15m AMF), but they themselves refuse to guarantee it ('new revenue streams') to the city. It's pathetic. RSE wants the city to take on all of the risk associated with unicorn fart revenue projections. Several posters here flat out denied this to be true or tried to downplay it. That quote, straight from Sherwood, puts it to bed.
     
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    You apparently did not understood my post. The $6.5 million figure that is thrown around is based on the SMG bid, yet we do not know what SMG promised to provide for that $6.5 million dollars. If it's not on par with what the Coyotes bring by themselves, then it's not an accurate figure to use.

    Yes I'm aware of what RSE wants to do, that doesn't change what I said above.
     
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    It doesn't make what you are saying any less silly. The Coyotes are not special. The revenue they provide to the city isn't hard to project or track. There are intangible benefits, but not enough to bridge such a monstrous gap. 41 events is less than one per week. A professional management company with performance clauses can't do that? It's not like the NHL has set the bar very high. KDB has posted a compelling argument that shows the league being harmful to the area and mismanaging (either on accident or purposefully) the arena via decreased bookings. Something that can't be explained or solely attributed to the recession.

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    Let's take a trip down the numbers rabbit hole, with CF as our guide:

    Why $6m for an AMF?

    Why the shell game with the city's credit?

    Why are they insisting on guaranteed revenue from RSE?

    Why is bending over backwards for the Coyotes stupid?

    So does the team actually help the area?

    But the Hocking report said...

     
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    what's he gonna post about when the coyotes leave?
     
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    Hey, Glendale: Please finish deal for Coyotes
    http://www.azcentral.com/sports/coy...6hey-glendale-please-finish-deal-coyotes.html
     
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    RT, I have been in many meetings with board members over issues that companies have to deal with where there is never agreement. But, when it comes time to vote, most people take the path of least resistance. I think the pro coyote members are forcing the fence sitters to step up and say no, in effect, squarely placing the blame and thus being responsible for the team leaving. People in general don't want to be blamed, and don't have enough guts to say "no" in a vote. Because of that, I think enough votes can be had for this to pass. Forget everything else, it is just human nature...
     
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    Head injuries are a heck of a thing. Yikes. Poor guy. Pudding for brains can't be fun.
     
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