Out of Town Thread Part XXIV

[The Real Timo]

Calgary has Kylington as the bottom pair LD and have Davidson, Valiev and Nielsen who could be the spare dmen or Calgary could sign Phaneuf to a 1 year deal. I dont think the Flames need to make a trade.

Not ANY trade... the Karl Alzner trade. Do they know who Karl Alzner is?

 

[LaP]

Not ANY trade... the Karl Alzner trade. Do they know who Karl Alzner is?

I don't know who he is but i heard he's the most solid dman in the league.

 

[Le Tricolore]

To anyone who has a subscription to The Athletic, this article is incredibly interesting (to me at least)

Breaking down an NHL salary: The numbers aren't as big as...

Breaking down an NHL salary: The numbers aren’t as big as you think


You are a teenager from Montreal’s working-class west end and you have just signed your first NHL contract. Congratulations on that, by the way.

The numbers look huge to a kid whose main source of income in the previous three or four summers is washing dishes in a relative’s restaurant for $8 an hour: $643,000 (all figures U.S.) to play in the big league, $65,000 to play in the minors. The deal includes a signing bonus of about $260,000, which in this case is paid out in six equal installments over the three years of the entry-level contract.

So what’s the first thing you do when you’re 19 and that first check arrives?

...

 

[overlords]

To anyone who has a subscription to The Athletic, this article is incredibly interesting (to me at least)

Breaking down an NHL salary: The numbers aren't as big as...

The article lost me at 'working class west end'

 

[the valiant effort]

we should really stop laughing at Toronto imo

Never.

 

[Le Tricolore]

The article lost me at 'working class west end'

I laughed at that as well.

 

[Runner77]

So Flames' Valimaki blew his ACL and is out for a while... TSN says it dealt Flames' D a big blow.
Enter Alzner, Karl. Who's Flames' top line center?

Valimaki is a LD and we have no NHL-ready quality disposable depth there.

Quite the opposite, what it might mean is that the Flames might be shopping for a LD which means the Habs will be competing with them on the market.

 

[Mrb1p]

Just imagine when russians read Acadie-Bathurst or Shawinigan

 

[L4br3cqu3]

Just imagine when russians read Acadie-Bathurst or Shawinigan

I actually laughed out loud.

 

[Mrb1p]

I actually laughed out loud.

Even worse when they hear a resident acadie bathurst speak

 

[Toene]

Even worse when they hear a resident acadie bathurst speak

Are you kidding Acadian accent is goat.

 

[David Suzuki]

Just imagine when russians read Acadie-Bathurst or Shawinigan

I live in NB and my brother thoughts Bathurst was called Acadie-Bathurst until he was like 14

 

[Hfbsux]

Even worse when they hear a resident acadie bathurst speak

If there is a spot where the Acadien don't have much of a thick accent, it's in this area (north east). You can find some interesting dialect going down south.

 

[Mrb1p]

If there is a spot where the Acadien don't have much of a thick accent, it's in this area (north east). You can find some interesting dialect going down south.

Still would be pretty hard to understand for a ruskie

 

[Adam Michaels]

I live in NB and my brother thoughts Bathurst was called Acadie-Bathurst until he was like 14

Every time I read or hear Bathurst, I think of bratwurst sausage.

 

[Hins77]

Out of topic, but I don’t like to see a lot of Canadians team with some problems with their RFA contract. Vancouver(boeser), calgary (tkachuk). Winnipeg (connor, laine) toronto (marner). And a team like San Jose will sign Labanc at 1 millions. What is the problem? I am wondering if these players really like theirs team. Columbus isnt attractive, werenski seem to know it...... Anaheim, nashville, dallas, arizona, LA, florida, san jose new york, doesnt have these problems.. its maybe just a coincidence thought...

 

[Andrei79]

To anyone who has a subscription to The Athletic, this article is incredibly interesting (to me at least)

Breaking down an NHL salary: The numbers aren't as big as...

What I'm reading between the lines is that while its easy to blow all that wealth (which is true in any endeavor), there's also the potential for very substantial growth of that wealth. Some players seem impervious to the peer pressure too. Gallagher seems to be one of them, at least they keep repeating in those Habs videos how good he is with his money.

 

[Hfbsux]

Still would be pretty hard to understand for a ruskie

Every time I read or hear Bathurst, I think of bratwurst sausage.

"C'est pire que ça à Bathurst!" Is a well used proverb in NB. The place became a ghost town and the weather seems always worst around there than other places lol.

 

[DangerDave]

Even worse when they hear a resident acadie bathurst speak

Wait til you hear what people from Dieppe, Bouctouch and Shediac sound like.

 

[Mrb1p]

Wait til you hear what people from Dieppe, Bouctouch and Shediac sound like.

I made a quick run through NB a few years ago and I was talking to this man in a breakfast joint and he kept saying Shediac and I was pretty much in tears.

Shhhhhideeack or something

 

[Miller Time]

Out of topic, but I don’t like to see a lot of Canadians team with some problems with their RFA contract. Vancouver(boeser), calgary (tkachuk). Winnipeg (connor, laine) toronto (marner). And a team like San Jose will sign Labanc at 1 millions. What is the problem? I am wondering if these players really like theirs team. Columbus isnt attractive, werenski seem to know it...... Anaheim, nashville, dallas, arizona, LA, florida, san jose new york, doesnt have these problems.. its maybe just a coincidence thought...

for sure some markets have an easier time re-signing/attracting players... quality of life matters, and let's face it, living on the US coast or South has a lot of perks, especially through the drugery of late-January/February. When the season is grinding you down, can only imagine it would be much nicer if 1/2 the time is spent in a warm/mild/sunny place vs the -40 & snowstorms we get up north.

I think in Vancouver's case, it might a bit more to do with their cap situation/management mistakes than with the market itself... and in Toronto, the Tavares/Matthews recent splurges must be a big factor. But for Wpg, Edm, Calgary and us? Yeah, location and cold definitely play a mitigating factor in those decisions for players. We used to have the legacy appeal to help offset that, but nearing a decade of terrible, player-confrontational management and over 2-decades of performance futility has destroyed much of the goodwill or currency our past likely provided us

 

[HABitual Fan]

Valimaki is a LD and we have no NHL-ready quality disposable depth there.

Quite the opposite, what it might mean is that the Flames might be shopping for a LD which means the Habs will be competing with them on the market.

They can wait till after preseason and have their pick of guys teams will try to get to the AHL on waivers. Some of those are probably better and cheaper than guys still unsigned and without spending assets to trade for a guy who will be a 6-8 defenseman on the team.

 

[Phil Parent]

for sure some markets have an easier time re-signing/attracting players... quality of life matters, and let's face it, living on the US coast or South has a lot of perks, especially through the drugery of late-January/February. When the season is grinding you down, can only imagine it would be much nicer if 1/2 the time is spent in a warm/mild/sunny place vs the -40 & snowstorms we get up north.

I think in Vancouver's case, it might a bit more to do with their cap situation/management mistakes than with the market itself... and in Toronto, the Tavares/Matthews recent splurges must be a big factor. But for Wpg, Edm, Calgary and us? Yeah, location and cold definitely play a mitigating factor in those decisions for players. We used to have the legacy appeal to help offset that, but nearing a decade of terrible, player-confrontational management and over 2-decades of performance futility has destroyed much of the goodwill or currency our past likely provided us

Habs have no problem resigning their RFAs though.

 

[Miller Time]

Habs have no problem resigning their RFAs though.

not since PK and the bridge fiasco... yeah... though that's also largely due to us not having a quality RFA coming off of a highly successful season, to re-sign in quite sometime.

Marner, Boeser, Tkachuk et. have, like PK at the time, established themselves as all-star caliber contributors.

Galch & Gallagher were coming off of mid-40pt seasons when they signed their RFA deals, and we really haven't had any other top-6/top-4 caliber players succeed enough to have bargaining power in recent years.
Drouin we gave $/term to without question bc of the trade & our GM's lack of sense.

Will be interesting to see how it plays out for Domi, Mete and JKO over the next 2 years. If the three of them play at the level we need them to, they'll all be sitting in a pretty strong negotiation spot. Domi ('20) and JKO ('21) could be sitting on multiple 60-70pt seasons when their next deals are due, Mete('20, more of a longshot) on a 35-45pt/20min-game 1st pairing season... with this summer's class fresh off of new deals that inevitably will have pushed the ceiling higher, and our team in desperate need to keep all 3 (especially, again, if they've met/exceeded expectations in the roles they are set up for)... Agents will be licking their chops

 

[Runner77]

They can wait till after preseason and have their pick of guys teams will try to get to the AHL on waivers. Some of those are probably better and cheaper than guys still unsigned and without spending assets to trade for a guy who will be a 6-8 defenseman on the team.

Was Valimaki not a top pairing guy? You’re not going to replace him with a reject from the scrap heap. If they’re serious about a replacement, they’ll have to go the trade route.