Unbelievable how much time the 67's have to T up their shots in the slot. Niagara can rotate the goalies all they want that has not been their problem.
Ottawa 67's 2014-15 Season Thread
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only two players seem ready to play for Niagara (Dunn and Agaard) compared to the 67's who have their whole team rolling. Even though this game is kind of just one sided, I'm still entertained!
Wow didn't see that coming, not the two wins but how convincing. Dogs have got to be reeling. Comments
1-Guy's best game as a 67
2- Midds/Lint solid shutting down Dogs top line
3-Malette having a great series, all over the ice his hits were a key today and got in the dogs heads.
4-TK shone tonight his set ups were incredible. Turning point in the game was his set up of the second goal, what vision and patience.
5-Bell involved, his tilt with the dogs best defensive D got Haydon off the ice for a while and showed Ottawa won't be intimidated.
Could go on and on great game boys but won't be this easy in Niagara the dogs are just too good a team.
1-Guy's best game as a 67
2- Midds/Lint solid shutting down Dogs top line
3-Malette having a great series, all over the ice his hits were a key today and got in the dogs heads.
4-TK shone tonight his set ups were incredible. Turning point in the game was his set up of the second goal, what vision and patience.
5-Bell involved, his tilt with the dogs best defensive D got Haydon off the ice for a while and showed Ottawa won't be intimidated.
Could go on and on great game boys but won't be this easy in Niagara the dogs are just too good a team.
I agree that the Dogs are better than this, no back home understands what the hell has happened the last two games. That being said, I can't see them coming back after being destroyed in back to back games. This series is already over. They have no goaltending, no defensive structure, and their best players are MIA.
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Glad to see Addison doing so well for you guys this year. Thought he stepped up his game during the second half of 2013-14 season. Believed he was due for a season like he's having this year. That was one trade I thought Saginaw shouldn't have done. Oh well I guess.
No too early to count them out, one win next game they regain confidence and anything can happen. They need the next one though or they're toast.
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If you scroll through the Playoff Predictions thread, you will notice that virtually EVERYONE that is not from Ottawa chose Niagara in this series. Also, they predicted a moderately quick series in an average of 5 games. Only a sparse few said 7 games.
One of the biggest reasons for this was the comparison of depth. Most felt that Niagara was so much deeper. I never really understood this all that much. Granted, their 3rd line statistically would have an edge over Ottawa but in the playoffs, typically the 3rd line goes out to wear the opposing team down in a 7 game series.
Ottawa, through the first 2 games, have 10 different goal scorers.
I also never understood the fascination with Ho-Sang. I compare him to Robbie Schremp. Great puck skills and outstanding skating. All the tools....no toolbox. He has virtually no vision nor hockey sense. His plays are always generated off individual skill. Travis Konecny assisted on the 67's 2nd goal tonight doing a beauty toe drag around the D-Man and set up Todd for the goal with a sweet pass. I guarantee you that if Ho-Sang had the same opportunity, he would have tried to force the puck to the net off balance after the toe drag. He is selfish and lacks vision to make that play Konecny did. And that is the offensive difference in this series. The 67's seem to be able to translate their opportunities into team goals. The Ice Dogs have had a very hard time working as a complete unit offensively.
Of course, the defense has been bad too. Ottawa is coming back and trying to contain. They understood going into the series that they needed to work very hard to contain the skill of Niagara. They had a game plan and it centred around outworking a more skilled team. So far they have done that and they need to continue to do it.
I think Niagara is now experiencing why a team with a considerable lack of skill has been so successful this year. Hard work and solid coaching with a repeatable game plan.
I think Ottawa has played at a higher tempo and smarter game to this point in the series. Niagara has the skill but they need to play a lot smarter and harder. It will be interesting to see how they respond on Monday...as well as how Ottawa carries themselves out of town.
One of the biggest reasons for this was the comparison of depth. Most felt that Niagara was so much deeper. I never really understood this all that much. Granted, their 3rd line statistically would have an edge over Ottawa but in the playoffs, typically the 3rd line goes out to wear the opposing team down in a 7 game series.
Ottawa, through the first 2 games, have 10 different goal scorers.
I also never understood the fascination with Ho-Sang. I compare him to Robbie Schremp. Great puck skills and outstanding skating. All the tools....no toolbox. He has virtually no vision nor hockey sense. His plays are always generated off individual skill. Travis Konecny assisted on the 67's 2nd goal tonight doing a beauty toe drag around the D-Man and set up Todd for the goal with a sweet pass. I guarantee you that if Ho-Sang had the same opportunity, he would have tried to force the puck to the net off balance after the toe drag. He is selfish and lacks vision to make that play Konecny did. And that is the offensive difference in this series. The 67's seem to be able to translate their opportunities into team goals. The Ice Dogs have had a very hard time working as a complete unit offensively.
Of course, the defense has been bad too. Ottawa is coming back and trying to contain. They understood going into the series that they needed to work very hard to contain the skill of Niagara. They had a game plan and it centred around outworking a more skilled team. So far they have done that and they need to continue to do it.
I think Niagara is now experiencing why a team with a considerable lack of skill has been so successful this year. Hard work and solid coaching with a repeatable game plan.
I think Ottawa has played at a higher tempo and smarter game to this point in the series. Niagara has the skill but they need to play a lot smarter and harder. It will be interesting to see how they respond on Monday...as well as how Ottawa carries themselves out of town.
I was disappointed when the Hounds had to give up Mallette this year, but there just wasn't room. His game is perfect for the playoffs. I think he's an ideal player for your bottom 6 and hope he continues to do well.
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Strange game in many ways. Things were tight and close-checking for a while and then Niagara scored first. It was almost as if they said to themselves that this was now their game. The fecal matter hit the air circulation device pretty quick. Niagara just couldn't handle the speed game and gave up far too many quality chances because of it. Ottawa's best were much better than Niagara's best, at least for a day.
The officiating was the usual. Addison gets pushed by the defender, slides into the goalie and gets a goalie interference penalty. Later, at the other end, I think it was Difruscia who ran into Herbst, no call. Now, Addison didn't make a huge effort to stop, but DiFruscia made no effort at all. Offsides and icings were a tossup, both ways. One linesman double-pumped his call and then made none.
I have to agree about Ho-Sang. He looks to have the one-on-one skills, but he seems to think every play is a one-on-one. The checkers play him to deke or shoot, never to pass. He could be a valuable sset if he distributed the puck a bit.
Just a note for Marty W. You didn't lose because the guy with the drum was being a pain. I know he's annoying, but he has to the right to be that. If being annoying was a criminal offence, I'd never leave home unescorted.
The officiating was the usual. Addison gets pushed by the defender, slides into the goalie and gets a goalie interference penalty. Later, at the other end, I think it was Difruscia who ran into Herbst, no call. Now, Addison didn't make a huge effort to stop, but DiFruscia made no effort at all. Offsides and icings were a tossup, both ways. One linesman double-pumped his call and then made none.
I have to agree about Ho-Sang. He looks to have the one-on-one skills, but he seems to think every play is a one-on-one. The checkers play him to deke or shoot, never to pass. He could be a valuable sset if he distributed the puck a bit.
Just a note for Marty W. You didn't lose because the guy with the drum was being a pain. I know he's annoying, but he has to the right to be that. If being annoying was a criminal offence, I'd never leave home unescorted.
Game 3, obviously, will be crucial for both teams.
There is too much talent on the Dogs to count them out already. Home ice may allow for a needed mindset change. They have a lot to work on but their regular season record suggests they have it within them.
The 67s meanwhile can't treat this one as over until its over. They have been marginally out-shot, though a less caution on the powerplay would make up this difference. Nonetheless, without the 8 minute Dog breakdown/scoring explosion in the 2nd, this could have been a very different game and series.
Let's all hope the officiating improves and doesn't become a factor in the outcome.
What goaltender should the Dogs start with Monday? Hope has dropped 11 goals in 4.5 periods and Moran 5 in 1.5.
There is too much talent on the Dogs to count them out already. Home ice may allow for a needed mindset change. They have a lot to work on but their regular season record suggests they have it within them.
The 67s meanwhile can't treat this one as over until its over. They have been marginally out-shot, though a less caution on the powerplay would make up this difference. Nonetheless, without the 8 minute Dog breakdown/scoring explosion in the 2nd, this could have been a very different game and series.
Let's all hope the officiating improves and doesn't become a factor in the outcome.
What goaltender should the Dogs start with Monday? Hope has dropped 11 goals in 4.5 periods and Moran 5 in 1.5.
I think the Dogs big concerns is goaltending if they win game 3 but give up 4 plus goals it could be a bigger issue.
This is an interesting series; never would have thought Ottawa would be scoring the way they are, and I figured Niagara would be the one scoring all the goals; in a way the way the teams are playing seem somewhat reversed (this is based on regular season stats mind you). This IS the playoffs though so anything can happen.
Glad to see former Hound Trent Mallette is playing well with you guys also!
Glad to see former Hound Trent Mallette is playing well with you guys also!
I was surprised at the lack of solid play from the Niagara D. They have 3 NHL draft picks on D and Dunn who is the better than all 3. With the exception of Dunn all of Niagara D have struggled and the goaltending has been average.
I have only watched Niagara three times this yr but I feel they do have more depth and the series is far from over. 8 or 9 NHL picks versus 2. Jeff Brown has coached great the first 2 games and things have gone great for the 67's but the games in Niagara might be different.
I have only watched Niagara three times this yr but I feel they do have more depth and the series is far from over. 8 or 9 NHL picks versus 2. Jeff Brown has coached great the first 2 games and things have gone great for the 67's but the games in Niagara might be different.
Just checking in on former Storm forward Adam Craievich. How is he making out in Ottawa?. Is he getting some opportunities to develop as a player?. His timing in Guelph wasn't that great as the team was loaded last season. Not sure if the staff gave up on him this year in Guelph or not. I am hoping it works out for him in Ottawa. Seemed like a decent kid.
Some analytics on the Dogs
Regular season from Jan 1, 2015
- Winning games (25)
--- Averaged 40 shots for, 29 shots against
--- Averaged 14.3% scoring, 90.6% saves
- Losing games (8)
--- Averaged 35 shots for, 33 shots against
--- Averaged 8.8% scoring, 84.9% saves
Game 1 vs Ottawa - 8-5 loss
- 30 shots for, 31 shots against
- 16.7% scoring, 74.2% saves
Game 2 vs Ottawa - 8-2 loss
- 24 shots for, 20 shots against
- 8.3% scoring, 60.0% saves
In only one previous game this calendar year was the Dogs save % lower than 80%, and that was in the final reg-season collapse against Erie.
These numbers underscore the general commentary, Dog's defense and goaltending collapsed in these two games, and at unprecedented levels in game 2.
Less obvious, in game 1 the Dogs offensive productivity was typical of their regular season wins (thanks mostly to Dunn), albeit with 25% fewer chances that made it to the net. In game 2, the offense productivity went MIA, also typical of their pattern in regular season losses, but even worse they had 33% fewer shots. Indeed, the next lowest shots for performance this year was 23 in a 3-0 loss to Erie.
Ottawa's defense needs to continue to restrain the Dog's firepower and to get in the heads of their D & G.
Credit: http://chlstats.pythonanywhere.com/team/42/NiagaraIceDogs/2014/
Regular season from Jan 1, 2015
- Winning games (25)
--- Averaged 40 shots for, 29 shots against
--- Averaged 14.3% scoring, 90.6% saves
- Losing games (8)
--- Averaged 35 shots for, 33 shots against
--- Averaged 8.8% scoring, 84.9% saves
Game 1 vs Ottawa - 8-5 loss
- 30 shots for, 31 shots against
- 16.7% scoring, 74.2% saves
Game 2 vs Ottawa - 8-2 loss
- 24 shots for, 20 shots against
- 8.3% scoring, 60.0% saves
In only one previous game this calendar year was the Dogs save % lower than 80%, and that was in the final reg-season collapse against Erie.
These numbers underscore the general commentary, Dog's defense and goaltending collapsed in these two games, and at unprecedented levels in game 2.
Less obvious, in game 1 the Dogs offensive productivity was typical of their regular season wins (thanks mostly to Dunn), albeit with 25% fewer chances that made it to the net. In game 2, the offense productivity went MIA, also typical of their pattern in regular season losses, but even worse they had 33% fewer shots. Indeed, the next lowest shots for performance this year was 23 in a 3-0 loss to Erie.
Ottawa's defense needs to continue to restrain the Dog's firepower and to get in the heads of their D & G.
Credit: http://chlstats.pythonanywhere.com/team/42/NiagaraIceDogs/2014/
This is an interesting take that seems to have been the prevailing thought around the league, in spite of the fact that the 67's outpaced the Dogs by three points this year and won the head to head series. Ottawa should have been the favourite, yet nearly every pundit in the province had them dropping the series in five or six games.
Jeff Brown is an exceptional coach and the team plays a great, entertaining system. In my opinion, these blowouts are the only surprise and I still feel that the 67's win in six.
I think the 67's are going to shock a lot of people, if they haven't already. Like you said, everyone figured Niagara would take this series (myself included) based on their play as of late, and the 67's were an underdog. This series is still early, but so far the 67's playing pretty darn good hockey
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Craievich seems to have adjusted to Brown's system. He is not a top line player, but goes out and gives good minutes in a checking role. His skating has improved and he doesn't hurt the team when he's out there.
To expand on Ecraig the more I watch him play I like his hockey sense, probably will not be a star in this league but do think he's gonna be a solid player the next 2-3 yrs especially under Jeff Brown's coaching.
By no means is this series over but god its fun to see the barberpoles relevant again.That's all u can ask for as a fan a team that works hard and possibly over achieves as the sum is greater than the parts.
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Hey folks remember this is the OHL. Kingston fans were already planning the second round parties this time last year.
That being said Niagara has to have a great game 3 and i do not think brown will make the mistakes that Gill made.
As far as the team goes to me to be a last place team and look so bad at the big rink to being the team they are this year Hunt has to be given credit for bringing the right people in to run the team.
That being said Niagara has to have a great game 3 and i do not think brown will make the mistakes that Gill made.
As far as the team goes to me to be a last place team and look so bad at the big rink to being the team they are this year Hunt has to be given credit for bringing the right people in to run the team.
It's funny because HoSang is passing the puck more than he ever did with Windsor.
Game 3 will be a lot harder because Niagara will have the last change and be able to get Perlini and Verhaege away from Middleton and Lintuniemi.
Ottawa's two-way forwards have done a number on the IceDogs but that'll have to continue in a big way tonight when the workhorses on the back end can't be on against the top line everytime.
Game 3 will be a lot harder because Niagara will have the last change and be able to get Perlini and Verhaege away from Middleton and Lintuniemi.
Ottawa's two-way forwards have done a number on the IceDogs but that'll have to continue in a big way tonight when the workhorses on the back end can't be on against the top line everytime.
Well big game and I expect Niagara to come out swinging in their barn If the boys can withstand the first ten minutes they have a great chance.
Niagara will come out one of two ways the first way is come out real hard and score a couple quick one or try and make a point and go after Mallete.
Way to go T. Mallette......he was a hard working team first player for the Hounds....glad to see him get a chance to shine!!! Hated to see him go but the numbers did play in his favor this year....
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