OT: Dwight Howard vs Zdeno Chara

[alanschu]

You sure know your boxing.

All I know is never bet on the white guy.

NAKED GUN!

 

[nycbruins*]

Basketball players are usually pretty terrible in fights.

Chara

 

[Morozov]

(In regard to the statement that Chara must have lower body fat)

Chara can do something like 36 consecutive pullups, which for a 260lb man is almost unheard of. Not only is he a freak about working out, he is apparently meticulous about his diet, and almost never drinks alcohol.

I bet champagne alone accounts for a .5% difference in body fat between the two.

So you don't actually have anything to support the notion that he has a lower body fat percentage except for talking up Chara (with numbers "something like" and unverified" and having nothing to say about Howard except trying to take a shot at him about "champagne". You say Chara is a "freak about working out", what like Howard isn't or something? have you even seen Dwight Howard?

 

[Beesfan]

So you don't actually have anything to support the notion that he has a lower body fat percentage except for talking up Chara (with numbers "something like" and unverified" and having nothing to say about Howard except trying to take a shot at him about "champagne". You say Chara is a "freak about working out", what like Howard isn't or something? have you even seen Dwight Howard?

Sorry, 31 pull ups. That's still incredible for a man his size.

"Zdeno Chara is also one of the strongest NHL players. At the Bruins strength testing session, he did 31 consecutive wide grip pullups.Chara is known around the league as a workout fanatic. "He is the most driven person I have ever seen to be the best," his agent, Matt Keator, says."

http://www.muscleprodigy.com/zdeno-chara-workout-arcl-1770.html

Fair point about Dwight Howard. I know nothing about the guy and have taken down any speculation about him.

 

[68*]

If there is a stanchion around: Chara.

 

[Root]

Chara. not because i am Bruins fan but because Chara is a tough son of a *****, and i really don't think basketball players are as tough as they think they are.

 

[kassian]

Put Dwight Howard aside, and take James Johnson (a Toronto Raptors player, by the way)

Guy's 6'9'' just like Chara, but he's 245lbs as of now (was 257lbs coming out Wake Forest). He also has a vertical leap of 36''...

The most interesting part is this:

Johnson's father Willie is a sixth-degree black belt kickboxer and his mother, Vi is also a black belt. He's one of nine children, eight of whom are black belts. His 10-year old sister Kiandra is only a blue belt. Willie runs J & P's martial arts in Cheyenne.

James Johnson is already 20-0 as a kickboxer and has MMA fight under his belt. That came as an 18-year-old against 31-year-old Damond Clark.

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog...-NBA-first-round-pick-with-qui?urn=mma-172202

I'd take him to beat Chara's ass any day of the week.

 

[Riddum]

Shaq > Chara > Howard


Howard would cry after one punch

How would you know? Whoever lands the first clean punch is a correct notion. These guys are pretty much super heavyweights with <10% body fat. With that kind of size, you'll most likely have the power to K.O anyone, if you land clean (and have a tiny bit of fight experience).

 

[Ward Cornell]

Put Dwight Howard aside, and take James Johnson (a Toronto Raptors player, by the way)

Guy's 6'9'' just like Chara, but he's 245lbs as of now (was 257lbs coming out Wake Forest). He also has a vertical leap of 36''...

The most interesting part is this:

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog...-NBA-first-round-pick-with-qui?urn=mma-172202

I'd take him to beat Chara's ass any day of the week.

http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2011/03/25/james-johnson-nbas-best-kicker/

Warming up for Thursday’s workout, the Raptors were faced with a common practice-court predicament. There were three balls lodged in one basket, suspended in the mesh like so many fish in a net.

It was no big problem, really. Tall men were in abundance. One flick of a wingspan could have alleviated the logjam. But Ed Davis and Jerry Bayless had a different idea. They challenged teammate James Johnson to dislodge the balls with an improbable implement — specifically, his foot. And soon enough Johnson, who is both 6-foot-9 and a black belt in kenpo karate, was wowing the squad with an airborne freak show.

“He looked like a ninja warrior,†marvelled Francesco Cuzzolin, the club’s strength and conditioning coach. “He was jumping in the air, spinning 360 and kicking the balls in the net. His head was over the rim, his legs were splitting, and he’s kicking the balls. It was something I’ve never seen in my life.â€

 

[karnige]

in an actual fight who knows. howard has the size and strength but chara has the fighting background and is tough as nails. how tough is howard? shaq as a bigman was tough as ****. he would be scary to face.

 

[Bob Kudelski]

Chara would destroy him.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I've never seen a basketball player throw a decent punch btw.

Well now you have

How would you know? Whoever lands the first clean punch is a correct notion. These guys are pretty much super heavyweights with <10% body fat. With that kind of size, you'll most likely have the power to K.O anyone, if you land clean (and have a tiny bit of fight experience).

I'd say that, of all the athletes in pro sports, the least-likely guy to get clocked with a clean KO punch is the experienced hockey fighter with a wrestling background.

 

[McDeepika]

Do people actually take fights to the ground now? I haven't seen a real fight in a year or 2, but in all the fights I have ever seen, the people stay on their feet and try to knock the other guy out.

Please tell me that submissions aren't involved in street fights now

 

[BacklundtoBartschi*]

Dwight Howard would kill Zdeno Chara in a fight easy.

 

[karnige]

Do people actually take fights to the ground now? I haven't seen a real fight in a year or 2, but in all the fights I have ever seen, the people stay on their feet and try to knock the other guy out.

Please tell me that submissions aren't involved in street fights now

your telling me you've never seen a guy tackle the other in a fight and keep swinging away? we aren't talking about submissions we are talking about fighting on the ground

 

[tarheelhockey]

Do people actually take fights to the ground now? I haven't seen a real fight in a year or 2, but in all the fights I have ever seen, the people stay on their feet and try to knock the other guy out.

Please tell me that submissions aren't involved in street fights now

One thing they always mention in self-defense courses is that most fights end up on the ground -- and that the ground is where someone can really do damage.

 

[wpgsilver]

What a ridiculous idea...
However, I think on skates it's obvious...Chara.
On dry land I think it's a crapshoot, I dont know that if they fight ten times you get the same result each time. My initial thought was Howard easily, though the posts have started to sway me.

 

[armani]

It was a known fact in Ottawa that Chara's summer workout regimen included Greco Roman wrestling, a sports that his that represented in the Olympics on behalf of his country.

In a fist fight - Chara. Check the number of fights he has on the NHL. How many fights does Howard have in the Basketball Association..oh wait, they don't actually fight in the NBA.

In a no holds barred - Chara again with his wrestling background. Vinny Lecavalier on the ground style, except this time there will be ground and pound.

On ice - depends how long either can keep their balance.

 

[ponder]

Dwight Howard is only two inches taller and ten pounds heavier. I love Dwight Howard, but I'll take the guy who plays the much tougher, more physical sport where fighting involves more than just a slapping contest.

He's listed at 6'11", but virtually all basketball players add 1-2" to their height, when questioned they say they list their "in shoes" height. Basketball is very height-oriented, being seen as undersized for your position can negatively impact perceptions of you as a player, so basically every player inflates their height (listed heights are provided by the player's agent, not official measurements). At the combine Dwight was measured at 6'9" in bare feet, and doesn't seem any taller now. LeBron was always listed at 6'8", but more recently has taken to listing himself at 6'9", so LeBron is likely around 6'7" to 6'8" in bare feet, and he always looks almost as tall as Dwight, 1" or maybe 2" shorter, which would back up Dwight being around 6'9" in bare feet.

Chara and Dwight are IMO likely the same height, and Dwight is only a bit heavier, but Dwight is certainly bulkier in the chest/arms while Chara seems stronger in the legs/core. Dwight would definitely have the overall physical advantage though, he has super long arms so should have the better reach, and he's crazy quick/explosive for a man his size, should be significantly quicker than Chara. With that being said, i'd still take Chara in a fight, he's a very tough man and really knows how to throw em, Dwight would probably be pretty clueless in a fight, I'd expect Chara to rip him apart despite his solid physical advantages.

 

[kassian]

http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2011/03/25/james-johnson-nbas-best-kicker/

Touching a 10ft rim with his foot, while doing a 360 rotation in mid-air. Now that's impressive.

I'm just wondering why people have been ignoring the points brought about the beast James Johnson is.

 

[Morozov]

Touching a 10ft rim with his foot, while doing a 360 rotation in mid-air. Now that's impressive.

I'm just wondering why people have been ignoring the points brought about the beast James Johnson is.

because nobody cares about James Johnson, especially on HF which is notorious for its Basketball hatred.

 

[kassian]

because nobody cares about James Johnson, especially on HF which is notorious for its Basketball hatred.

But people do care about Dwight Howard (a basketball player, afaik), right?

 

[Morozov]

But people do care about Dwight Howard (a basketball player, afaik), right?

A Basketball Superstar yeah as opposed to Johnson who is a nobody. Even then, I doubt most of HF care at all about who Dwight is.

 

[BobbyMarks1]

Did you see Koci? Lol. Howard gets put to sleep in three seconds or less.

And Chara keeps hitting him while he's asleep, wakes him up, and puts him back to sleep. Everyone knows Chara doesn't stop fighting until Chara decides to stop fighting.

 

[ChokeOnOil]

(In regard to the statement that Chara must have lower body fat)

Chara can do something like 36 consecutive pullups, which for a 260lb man is almost unheard of. Not only is he a freak about working out, he is apparently meticulous about his diet, and almost never drinks alcohol.

I kid, I kid.