Prospect Info: Olli Juolevi

[Jyrki21]

We can rebuild him. We have the technology.

 

[xtra]

Question - who will have a bigger impact for the Canucks

olli Juolevi
Or
Nikita Tryamkin



answer. Neither.

neither will ever play a(nother) NHL game.

even I don’t agree with that, regardless of how bad he is he will get an NHL game cause of his status and benning unable to be wrong in his mind

 

[Melvin]

even I don’t agree with that, regardless of how bad he is he will get an NHL game cause of his status and benning unable to be wrong in his mind

Also their godawful depth. Only a matter of time Tanev and Edler are out and Jim gets to give Olli the call.

 

[Hit the post]

Also their godawful depth. Only a matter of time Tanev and Edler are out and Jim gets to give Olli the call.

Maybe Jimbo will come out of retirement and suit up ala Gordie Howe style. Veteran mentor.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Jim "draft guru" Benning.

looks like he's on track for his 3rd Calder finalist in a row?

 

[Hit the post]

looks like he's on track for his 3rd Calder finalist in a row?

Could match the number of head coaches he's hired for the Canucks.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

looks like he's on track for his 3rd Calder finalist in a row?

We have been statistically the worst team in the league over the last 5 years average. Not hard to have a few guys work out when you’re given suck high picks.

let’s not praise GMJB for doing what GMs are SUPPOSED to do.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

We have been statistically the worst team in the league over the last 5 years average. Not hard to have a few guys work out when you’re given suck high picks.

let’s not praise GMJB for doing what GMs are SUPPOSED to do.

Why will Juolevi or Tryamkin never play an NHL game?..30 other GM's couldn't draft 3 consecutive Calder finalists?

 

[Hyzer]

Also their godawful depth. Only a matter of time Tanev and Edler are out and Jim gets to give Olli the call.

Imagine a defense paring of Fantenberg and Juolevi when Green line matches him against Malkin .

Happy to hear that Olli isn't all that injured and is back soon, though.

 

[Johnny Canucker]

Why will Juolevi or Tryamkin never play an NHL game?..30 other GM's couldn't draft 3 consecutive Calder finalists?

30 other GMs drafted in the top 10 three years in a row??

 

[4Twenty]

Oh, excuse me your holiness, I didnt know a mere response to thy word means I am triggered?

But thats an awesome response...your perception of rumours....or lack of...what a comedy.

Your contrarian schtick makes you look silly sometimes.

One guy has put up .36 career ppg, the other .30. I chalk up the difference to one guy has had the luxury of playing on a significantly better team for a few years. Both play with blinders on (ill slow it down for you...neither is very smart sometimes), both are disappointments in light of where they were taken in the draft...but saying you would take one guy over the other every day of the week is laughable when the guy you would take every day of the week has 5 points so far...and the other guy is producing about double that at half the cost (but i forgot cap only counts when you want to complain about cap).

But yeah, he is far more brilliant on the ice than Jake....

Of course you’d go on some diatribe about me.

I genuinely think Sam Bennett is a better player than Jake Virtanen.

maybe put me on ignore if you’re so easily triggered.

 

[sting101]

Glad to hear Olli is only having a set back not another major incident.

 

[LordBacon]

Still have hopes for the guy, but damn the hockey gods have no mercy on olli.

 

[xtra]

30 other gms haven’t missed the playoffs 4years in a row probably 5 this year

 

[vanuck]

looks like he's on track for his 3rd Calder finalist in a row?

Frankly from all the hype I'm disappointed he's not on track for his 5th...

 

[vanuck]

30 other gms haven’t missed the playoffs 4years in a row probably 5 this year

30 other GM's don't have as many excuses going for them combined as Benning does.

 

[hcg]

Benning can't control injuries after the draft.

He was a great pick at the time. I forget who it was but another dman was draft I think 7th and it took 4years before he played a game because of injuries. He is now a top4 dman. Not top 2 but still a solid important player. I just can't remember the name of that player

Then he went back to Junior and was meh. Then they went to Finland, not much better.

Juolevi was well on track to be a massive bust before he hurt his back.

 

[hcg]

For all the warts in his actual play, the only reason he hasn't gotten NHL games is injuries. He's shown enough every time he's gotten a chance that he deserves a cup of coffee, at minimum.

I thought he was a reasonable pick at the time. He was the top defenceman on a lot of lists, and he was in the range of where he was taken. If a team didn't like Tkachuk, Juolevi was a solid pick to make (see Dubois over the consensus higher ranked Puljujarvi for an example of this thinking paying off).

He didn't progress in his D+1 year, then his body fell apart every time he seemed to be taking a step.

Now Virtanen was a stretch - he clearly was ranked at the bottom of a grouping of good players in the draft. That said - I liked Ritchie by a hair over Ehlers, so don't trust my opinion on that draft.

If he was entirely healthy then we would all have acknowledged him as a bust.

All the injuries have done is buy him time in the eyes of some fans. He's never going to be a regular NHLer. He will be back in Europe after next year.

 

[hcg]

We have been statistically the worst team in the league over the last 5 years average. Not hard to have a few guys work out when you’re given suck high picks.

let’s not praise GMJB for doing what GMs are SUPPOSED to do.

Lets see him actually draft a few impact players outside the first round. Gaudette is nice. Lets have more of that.

Canucks have a shockingly awful prospect pool for how bad they have been. It's insanely bad.

 

[Melvin]

Lost in all the blather about drafting is that they could have traded Olli 2 years ago as I said at the time. It was obvious then he wouldn't work out but still had value unlike now.

Realizing when to cash in your prospects vs clinging to them until they turn to dust is another key skill that Benning lacks.

 

[Diversification]

Lets see him actually draft a few impact players outside the first round. Gaudette is nice. Lets have more of that.

Canucks have a shockingly awful prospect pool for how bad they have been. It's insanely bad.

FWIW, I'm not a Benning supporter but let's be fair: Demko is an impact NHL player. DiPietro is an impact AHL player that's tracking to become an NHL goalie in some capacity. Madden is tracking similarly to Gaudette. Hoglander is having good D+1. As is Carson Focht and McDonough.

Not great, but better than you're implying.

 

[Jyrki21]

FWIW, I'm not a Benning supporter but let's be fair: Demko is an impact NHL player. DiPietro is an impact AHL player that's tracking to become an NHL goalie in some capacity. Madden is tracking similarly to Gaudette. Hoglander is having good D+1. As is Carson Focht and McDonough.

Not great, but better than you're implying.

Most prospects improve in their D+1 year as they get older – literally every team can point to this progress, it doesn't mean much (even if we accept the pretty ridiculous idea that Benning is the guy scouting 5th rounders). Other than Shinkaruk (injuries) and maybe Miles Liberati, the entirety of the Canucks' 2013 draft took a step forward in their D+1 year, for example, and we were excited about Cassels, Subban, etc.

 

[Jimbo57]

We have been statistically the worst team in the league over the last 5 years average. Not hard to have a few guys work out when you’re given suck high picks.

let’s not praise GMJB for doing what GMs are SUPPOSED to do.

How many teams in NHL history have had 3 finalists in a row without picking in the top 4?

 

[4Twenty]

We're on calder finalists again?

 

[jftam]

See, this is where I disagree but it's not fact, just my opinion.

I think he was more than a small reach, because of how the tiers of the draft broke down, but even then, I just never liked him as a prospect, very vanilla, no standout qualities. I also think Chychrun was the #1 dman available at the time of the draft, and he may very well still be that, but it's close with McAvoy.

IIRC, Chychrun was in the running for #1 overall pick , not just best d-man, in the years leading up to the draft. He fell due to injury concerns and surgeries. Kinda ironic for us having picked Olli.