Post-Game Talk: Oilers def. Canucks - 3-2 (Pettersson, Motte)

[MarkusNaslund19]

I thought McDavid hunting for a PP literally while he was lunging towards the boards was pretty pathetic.

I'm really impressed by the efforts of the team through all of these Covid absences.

People who are shocked about Hoggy and Podz playing less than Dickinson in a game like this don't understand hockey.

The Oilers are a pathetic team with two incredible players, we were missing our match up center and (often) matchup winger in Horvat and Pearson. Dickinson is a player who can be trusted defensively.

If Draisaitl or McDavid start dancing out there for a 1:30 shift in our zone they will absolutely salivate if we have rookies out there.

Further, we were in the lead from just over half way through the 2nd until about 8 minutes left in the 3rd. All of that is time that you are playing your more defensively responsible players, again, especially against a team with Edmonton's composition.

People who are freaking out about these losses are hilarious. We're literally missing half of our top 6 and our two best goaltenders. Martin has played really well (the first goal notwithstanding) but teams also play more dynamically in front of goalies they trust. Getting Demko and the 3 forwards back is going to mean a lot to this team.

This division is weak enough that it's right there for the taking (a playoff spot) if we can get a healthy streak going.

Honestly, Aquilli is paying the price for his greed. Missing those games with a fully healthy roster means we can't delay while missing anywhere from 5-7 important players. Irritating.

 

[sting101]

boy band is right we are so dang soft

were coming for you

 

[LordBacon]

Better play other way older plugs with no offensive skills than the young guns learning the NA game instead am i right?

Seriously, this is TG level deployment all over again.

 

[Sedinery]

Hoglander's defensive IQ is poor and he doesn't put up points even though he looks good at times offensively. Until one of those two change, he isn't going to get big minutes.

Nobody has the defensive IQ of Dickinson

 

[iceburg]

Im not sure that weak coverage by Dickinson is recoverable. That was just so weak. He can go away, take his money and play in the echl as far as I’m concerned.

 

[sting101]

This will never get old:

Bronn is my idol

 

[Peen]

Picks hold more value at the draft though, plus part of Miller's value is that you sell the other GM on 2 playoff runs with him at a great cap hit

Just retain 50% on the one year remaining in the summer to recoup some of that difference

Don’t get me wrong, the optimal time to trade him is now but I think there’s more important fish to fry

 

[Scorvat]

Hoglander's defensive IQ is poor and he doesn't put up points even though he looks good at times offensively. Until one of those two change, he isn't going to get big minutes.

when he's the only one consistently creating chances you kind of have to just live with his defensive mistakes

No reason why he should not have gotten extra shifts with Miller, Petey, Motte lol

 

[Sedinery]

I thought McDavid hunting for a PP literally while he was lunging towards the boards was pretty pathetic.

I'm really impressed by the efforts of the team through all of these Covid absences.

People who are shocked about Hoggy and Podz playing less than Dickinson in a game like this don't understand hockey.

The Oilers are a pathetic team with two incredible players, we were missing our match up center and (often) matchup winger in Horvat and Pearson. Dickinson is a player who can be trusted defensively.

If Draisaitl or McDavid start dancing out there for a 1:30 shift in our zone they will absolutely salivate if we have rookies out there.

Further, we were in the lead from just over half way through the 2nd until about 8 minutes left in the 3rd. All of that is time that you are playing your more defensively responsible players, again, especially against a team with Edmonton's composition.

People who are freaking out about these losses are hilarious. We're literally missing half of our top 6 and our two best goaltenders. Martin has played really well (the first goal notwithstanding) but teams also play more dynamically in front of goalies they trust. Getting Demko and the 3 forwards back is going to mean a lot to this team.

This division is weak enough that it's right there for the taking (a playoff spot) if we can get a healthy streak going.

Honestly, Aquilli is paying the price for his greed. Missing those games with a fully healthy roster means we can't delay while missing anywhere from 5-7 important players. Irritating.

Yup Dickinson sure can be trusted defensively as illustrated by his coasting towards McJesus as he scored

but hey apparently you “know hockey”

 

[Sedinery]

Martin stands on his head and loser Dickinson can’t take 2 more strides to make a check

 

[elitepete]

EP looks better, he's creating zone entries again, his shot looks good. I'm confident he turns it around. Hughes has been great this season so no complaints there, especially at his cap hit.

Boeser is overpaid since he doesnt really drive play through the neutral zone, he'd be a nice fit for a team that's already good at that so he can just do his thing as a finisher, but on this team he's a bad fit.

I’m ready to move on from Boeser.

 

[Sedinery]

I thought McDavid hunting for a PP literally while he was lunging towards the boards was pretty pathetic.

I'm really impressed by the efforts of the team through all of these Covid absences.

People who are shocked about Hoggy and Podz playing less than Dickinson in a game like this don't understand hockey.

The Oilers are a pathetic team with two incredible players, we were missing our match up center and (often) matchup winger in Horvat and Pearson. Dickinson is a player who can be trusted defensively.

If Draisaitl or McDavid start dancing out there for a 1:30 shift in our zone they will absolutely salivate if we have rookies out there.

Further, we were in the lead from just over half way through the 2nd until about 8 minutes left in the 3rd. All of that is time that you are playing your more defensively responsible players, again, especially against a team with Edmonton's composition.

People who are freaking out about these losses are hilarious. We're literally missing half of our top 6 and our two best goaltenders. Martin has played really well (the first goal notwithstanding) but teams also play more dynamically in front of goalies they trust. Getting Demko and the 3 forwards back is going to mean a lot to this team.

This division is weak enough that it's right there for the taking (a playoff spot) if we can get a healthy streak going.

Honestly, Aquilli is paying the price for his greed. Missing those games with a fully healthy roster means we can't delay while missing anywhere from 5-7 important players. Irritating.

NHL decided to postpone those games, not Aqua

get your facts straight

still greed, just not Aqua’s

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Hunt was very weak with the puck in the D zone

Burroughs is much better

Sounds like Burroughs is injured - spotted with his foot in a boot / brace today. I believe he blocked a shot off his instep last game, so it may have done damage.

 

[Sedinery]

Sounds like Burroughs is injured - spotted with his foot in a boot / brace today. I believe he blocked a shot off his instep last game, so it may have done damage.

Ahhh ok makes sense

 

[Canuckle1970]

Gut punch loss for Martin, the team, the fans, especially losing to a divisional rival. Without Martin tonight, and Demko on many other nights, we're not in it, even when we give our best effort.

Cue Mr. Allvin and JR..........loaves and fishes time. If you can unload that Myers contract at trade deadline, you'll be immortal.

 

[Sedinery]

We are not a playoff team. I think the best strategy is to move some assets and fill some gaps. Draft well and shoot for the playoffs next season

just not good enough defensively

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

Bring back fun December Boudreau who played the kids and tried everyone on the PK and looked to be having fun.

Post-COVID Boudreau looks like Travis Green pulled a Face/Off deal to get back behind the bench. Not enjoying watching scads of icetime get shoveled at Chiasson and Dickinson while we sit on leads (and blow them) and bench the young guys. This looked like a textbook Travis Green game tonight.

Yeah. When he was hired it looked like there was absolutely no shot of making in the playoffs. It was just about getting confidence going the younger guys were played more. They even pked. No that there is a chance at the playoffs, he is now playing the veterans more.

Still a major upgrade on Green though.

 

[Tomatoes11]

I must say Spencer Martin looks better than Halak. Lol He made some huge saves on Draisaitl.

That said, this farce needs to stop. We need to give up on playoffs it’s quite futile. Technically we can only afford to lose about 14 more games to get to the 97 points we need and the other teams aren’t really losing that often. Anaheim was and the jets are but that’s about it.

 

[polarbearcub]

Guys… McDavid was brutally and viscously attacked by blood thirsty oel , didn’t you hear his blood curdling scream when he was touched? He was in utter unimaginable pain!!!

seriously , that scream and simultaneous ref stare was impressive.

go whine some more mcbaby

 

[cabinessence]

Have we witnessed anyones career follow this trajectory?

Yes, if you do some simple history.many have fallen off to never recover after promising starts. No offense,but maybe some,a lot of this generation thinks the world started 9 years ago. Jimmy Carson? Doug Wickemheiser? Jason King? Tal Bachman?

 

[cabinessence]

Yup Dickinson sure can be trusted defensively as illustrated by his coasting towards McJesus as he scored

but hey apparently you “know hockey”

Warning...your criticism of people with names that start with J maybe go against forum rules.

 

[Breakers]

This was our worst even strength lost of the Bruce Era. Like extremely bad. 13-3 HD scoring chances at 5v5.

and frankly it isnt a coincidence with the ice time he gave players, and those line combo's

Thought travis Green was back behind the bench

Hughes with Poolman, every underlying number points to it being a franking shit pairing including the eye test

Hughes with Schenn who have played 200 minutes is lightyears better in every possible way.

 

[orcatown]

Played awful and very lucky to get an undeserved point. So many bad efforts. Covid crap is hurting big time (like when can three time vaccinated players playing against other healthy, three times vaccinated young players, play). McDavid diving to get calls will hurt him in the long run.

Good

Martin - made a number of very good saves and was under siege for the whole game. Do get the feeling he might be the type that is prone to give up the one bad goal even after he stops a ton of great chances

Motte - outstanding, again our best player. Don't trade him.

Myers - had his bad moments but asked to carry the whole defense in his end shift after shift. Only d-man that looked capable of handling the Oiler pressure

Highmore - great forecheck and good play through the neutral zone. Him and Motte have formed an effective duo.

Bad

Pettersson - nice shot but overall stunk. So weak, so awkward and so poor on the passing. Seemingly gets his legs tangled every time he attempts to turn. Have to start from scratch in re-building this player in terms of leg strength and agility.

Bailey - looked better last year than this year and he was no good last year.

Boeser - lugged around all game then makes a good shift to get to the net in OT. At this point he is looking like a salary dump. On performance cannot be qualified by the team in the off season.

OEL - Myers had to bail him out all game. Not moving well enough to carry the puck out of his zone or keep consistently with his check in his own end. This looks like it might not end well.

Podkolzin - just didn't seem to have it tonight. Lot of the team looked off which seems to happen as homestands continue. Not good at getting puck out of his zone. But you have to recognize he was out with the miserable Dickinson which wasn't helping. Everything a one off in this game as it was for Hoglander most of the game

Awful

Poolman - bad player having a bad game. Looked like Lurch trying to defend and often lost his check. Good deal of puck watching is getting into his game which is really compounding his inability to respond when the puck gets moved from side to side.

Dickinson - can't win a faceoff, can't carry the puck, can't check, can't do much of anything. On for all of the goals against and lucky he was only a minus 3. Takes his wingers right out of the game and distributes the puck like a lower case Sutter. (who is actually a ton better) Pretty much useless and with a full roster should be benched. Does anyone know the buy out on this player?

Others

Hughes - not up to his usual standards. Not bad but not the force he needed to be.

Miller - always takes time for him to get going when he has been off for a awhile. Tends to telegraph passes and get too many picked off when the team is in a vulnerable position

Chaisson - got to the front of the net but did nothing when he was there. Very poor and clumsy skater who should not be in the League

When you look at the roster and the potential for some to become total cap liabilities, Rutherford and co. have got their work cut out for them. Likely see, if Benning was still around. us trading are first rounder to get rid of some of the garbage he'd brought in.

 

[AppleHoneySauce]

This was our worst even strength lost of the Bruce Era. Like extremely bad. 13-3 HD scoring chances at 5v5.

and frankly it isnt a coincidence with the ice time he gave players, and those line combo's

Thought travis Green was back behind the bench

Hughes with Poolman, every underlying number points to it being a franking shit pairing including the eye test

Hughes with Schenn who have played 200 minutes is lightyears better in every possible way.

He should study that last BoA game. Calgary thoroughly dominated the entire game even strength. If they had even slightly better goaltending they win easily. This game was basically the exact opposite.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Yes, if you do some simple history.many have fallen off to never recover after promising starts. No offense,but maybe some,a lot of this generation thinks the world started 9 years ago. Jimmy Carson? Doug Wickemheiser? Jason King? Tal Bachman?

Aware of Jimmy Carson. WTF at Jason King.

Don't think the Canucks have had a guy in their early 20s fall off this rapidly in recent memory (25 years or so).