Offseason Thread XX: Hockey Time

[RGY]

why would the ducks do that?

They need help on wing.

Maybe winnipeg sends them a D prospect.

 

[RangerBoy]

Boo Nieves was very good playing in the middle with Vesey at Traverse City. He suffered an upper body injury in the first period of the last game. He said it was not serious but he hasn't skated since and it's been 9 days. Big. Strong. Can skate like the wind. We still don't know if Hayes is better suited on the wing or at center. Boo can play left wing too. The Rangers have internal options to replace JT.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Hayes is definitely a center. Not a wing, he may have played it in college but he's best suited for center

 

[TheTakedown]

Miller has played almost exclusively wing as a Ranger

if he wants a C near Miller's level, then Lindberg might be the guy... Not top line material, but middle 6 absolutely.

 

[Trxjw]

Replacing Zucc with Stafford would give the Jets two amazing scoring lines (and he provides some insulation so their younger guys can get sheltered). Stafford has one year left and only makes $150K less than Zucc on his AAV.

I'd have to think that Zucc goes from "insulation" to "blocking" rather quickly. Ehlers, Connor, and Laine are all fantastic young players and I'd be stunned if they weren't all top-six guys by next season. With Wheeler in the mix, where does that leave Zucc?

If they take a forward, I'd bet Miller would be the one to go. He can at least play pivot even if he hasn't in a while.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I'd have to think that Zucc goes from "insulation" to "blocking" rather quickly. Ehlers, Connor, and Laine are all fantastic young players and I'd be stunned if they weren't all top-six guys by next season. With Wheeler in the mix, where does that leave Zucc?

If they take a forward, I'd bet Miller would be the one to go. He can at least play pivot even if he hasn't in a while.

This.

I forget who said it, but Zucc to Anaheim makes more sense.

 

[NYR Viper]

I'd have to think that Zucc goes from "insulation" to "blocking" rather quickly. Ehlers, Connor, and Laine are all fantastic young players and I'd be stunned if they weren't all top-six guys by next season. With Wheeler in the mix, where does that leave Zucc?

If they take a forward, I'd bet Miller would be the one to go. He can at least play pivot even if he hasn't in a while.

Eh, Stafford is gone after this year. Little is a UFA the year after that along with Matthias who is more of a 3rd/4th liner.

This year's wingers
Wheeler
MZA
Laine
Ehlers/Connor

Stafford
Ehlers/Connor

Next year
Wheeler
MZA
Laine
Ehlers/Connor

Ehlers/Connor
Armia/Lemieux/whoever

I don't think he blocks anyone and at $5m he isn't an anchor. Multiple teams have proven that you need depth scoring to win. (3) sets of scoring wingers is a good thing

 

[Levitate]

Hayes is definitely a center. Not a wing, he may have played it in college but he's best suited for center

Yeah, he's been much better at center. Rangers obviously also see him more as a center

 

[TheTakedown]

This.

I forget who said it, but Zucc to Anaheim makes more sense.

Me !

I can see it like this:

TO ANA: One of Zuccarello (no retention)/Nash (50% retained)
TO NYR: One of Theodore/Montour
- This is a straight up trade. No picks involved. Anaheim deals from a strength to fill a weakness while avoiding any impact on current roster players.

Then NYR makes another trade:

TO WPG: Miller and one of Skjei/Montour/Theodore (whoever is received from ANA)
TO NYR: Trouba + mid round pick/middling prospect
This satisfies both WPG's demands and the NYR's Needs

This actually strengthens all teams weaknesses:
- ANA gets a top line winger
- NYR gets a Top Teir (aka high cost, high reward) RHD
- WPG gets a budget friendly (aka low cost, middle-to-high reward) Top RHD

If Anaheim wants to put Fowler into one of these proposals for additional pieces, or if the Rangers can orchestrate another piece coming to them from WPG in return for Fowler going directly to WPG, that would open additional options.

There have been several reports that the Rangers have wanted to deal with a west coast team--one of LA, SJS, or ANA. I think Anaheim fits best, and Gorton has a rapport with ANA already because of the Hagelin/Etem exchange

 

[Trxjw]

Eh, Stafford is gone after this year. Little is a UFA the year after that along with Matthias who is more of a 3rd/4th liner.

This year's wingers
Wheeler
MZA
Laine
Ehlers/Connor

Stafford
Ehlers/Connor

Next year
Wheeler
MZA
Laine
Ehlers/Connor

Ehlers/Connor
Armia/Lemieux/whoever

I don't think he blocks anyone and at $5m he isn't an anchor. Multiple teams have proven that you need depth scoring to win. (3) sets of scoring wingers is a good thing

3 sets of scoring wingers is fine, but not when you have little depth at just about every other position. I mean, trading one of your best young assets for a redundant piece? It makes no sense. They have to fill some sort of need when they trade Trouba.

 

[Charlie Conway]

Me !

I can see it like this:

TO ANA: One of Zuccarello (no retention)/Nash (50% retained)
TO NYR: One of Theodore/Montour
- This is a straight up trade. No picks involved. Anaheim deals from a strength to fill a weakness while avoiding any impact on current roster players.

Then NYR makes another trade:

TO WPG: Miller and one of Skjei/Montour/Theodore (whoever is received from ANA)
TO NYR: Trouba + mid round pick/middling prospect
This satisfies both WPG's demands and the NYR's Needs

This actually strengthens all teams weaknesses:
- ANA gets a top line winger
- NYR gets a Top Teir (aka high cost, high reward) RHD
- WPG gets a budget friendly (aka low cost, middle-to-high reward) Top RHD

If Anaheim wants to put Fowler into one of these proposals for additional pieces, or if the Rangers can orchestrate another piece coming to them from WPG in return for Fowler going directly to WPG, that would open additional options.

Wasn't Winnipeg looking more for a LHD? They have Byfuglien and Myers on the right.

 

[NYR Viper]

3 sets of scoring wingers is fine, but not when you have little depth at just about every other position. I mean, trading one of your best young assets for a redundant piece? It makes no sense. They have to fill some sort of need when they trade Trouba.

Why not then trade from a position of strength to fill the position of weakness later when needed?

 

[Mac n Gs]

I'd have to think that Zucc goes from "insulation" to "blocking" rather quickly. Ehlers, Connor, and Laine are all fantastic young players and I'd be stunned if they weren't all top-six guys by next season. With Wheeler in the mix, where does that leave Zucc?

If they take a forward, I'd bet Miller would be the one to go. He can at least play pivot even if he hasn't in a while.

Didn't Connor play center on the CCM line, or did Compher? I could've sworn Connor played C at some point, but maybe that was in the USHL.

 

[Trxjw]

Why not then trade from a position of strength to fill the position of weakness later when needed?

Because they can trade to fill that weakness now, instead of further bolstering an organizational strength at the expense of their top trade asset. Not to single you out, I just feel like this Zucc to Winnipeg angle is all about helping Rangers fans rationalize a trade, instead of realizing what Winnipeg needs.

Didn't Connor play center on the CCM line, or did Compher? I could've sworn Connor played C at some point, but maybe that was in the USHL.

I think he has played C, but I'm pretty sure he's projected as a winger in the NHL.

 

[Lion Hound]

Trouba posts were getting me amped up. Like Vesey sweepsteaks all over again.


Some thoughts....

Zibanejad is a RFA next season. What is that next contract going to look like?
Trouba is looking to get paid. RFA as of right now. If he comes here they still need to sign him.


Can the Rangers even make this work financially IF...IF #61 is still with the club next season?


If Zucc to WPG said a one for one deal correct? Gives the Rangers $4.5 to play with.


If JT and Skjei to WPG it clears out $3,675,000 in Cap space


$11.2 Million locked up in 2 Dmen. 2 Dmen that aren't 1, and 2's anymore. 2 Dmen that may not be 3, 4's anymore either! I give both credit where its due. They put in their time. Ate a lot of pucks. Fought hard for this club...But Damn!

The business side of Hockey has never been more important! Put your money into the kids!

 

[silverfish]

Cerny's replacement:

 

[Lion Hound]

Cerny's replacement:

Is she hot?

 

[FLYLine27*]

Is she hot?

Yes!

 

[Revel]

Amanda Borges

 

[Lion Hound]

Yes!

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

She's definitely more pleasing to look at then Jim, hope she's good at her job like he was too.

 

[Irishguy42]

Yes!

Insta-followed. Hope she's good replacement. I don't know anything about her or her reporting.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Best move of da offseason. Congrats to her though

 

[FLYLine27*]

Best move of da offseason. Congrats to her though

Agreed

 

[BleedinBLUEsince92]

Is she hot?

Why do her looks matter you misogynist?! I kid I kid : )