Speculation: Offseason Thread XIX: Alright, Alright, Alright...

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Pokkahonkasa?

Wait, we get them both PLUS Poccahantas? Sign me up!

(In all seriousness, would be thrilled to get either, depending on the package going back.)

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

No way. If you have a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in an upcoming draft, you are PRAYING you come out of it with a Skjei and a Lindberg and only one bust. Never mind the fact that the latter could contribute to your team THIS season.

How early is that first? Skjei was picked late first, and his value right now is probably late first. Lindberg was picked late second, and his value right now is probably late second.

It's close, but if its a higher first, I'd take the picks.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

How early is that first? Skjei was picked late first, and his value right now is probably late first. Lindberg was picked late second, and his value right now is probably late second.

It's close, but if its a higher first, I'd take the picks.

Projected vs. panned out is huge. As is another 3-4 years of waiting.

 

[rangers1314]

Kreider/Graves/2nd?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Kreider/Graves/2nd?

I'd begrudgingly do it.

I'd feel much more comfortable doing the Miller/Skjei+ package honestly.

 

[nyr__1994]

How early is that first? Skjei was picked late first, and his value right now is probably late first. Lindberg was picked late second, and his value right now is probably late second.

It's close, but if its a higher first, I'd take the picks.

So if NYR traded Skjei for a 1st round pick you would think that is a good trade?

 

[smoneil]

Kreider/Graves/2nd?

I'd begrudgingly do it.

I'd feel much more comfortable doing the Miller/Skjei+ package honestly.

They have plenty of wingers. They want a young, NHL level top four LD. If Skjei isn't the centerpiece, I would imagine they would go with another team's offer. I just don't see any way they pull the trigger when the key piece going back is a LW.

I'd make that move, but I can understand why people don't want to move Skjei and/or Miller.

 

[BBKers]

So if NYR traded Skjei for a 1st round pick you would think that is a good trade?

With any Canadian team - YES. Otherwise not so sure

 

[darko]

How early is that first? Skjei was picked late first, and his value right now is probably late first. Lindberg was picked late second, and his value right now is probably late second.

It's close, but if its a higher first, I'd take the picks.

I wouldn't trade Skjei for a late 1st.

 

[rangers1314]

I'd begrudgingly do it.

I'd feel much more comfortable doing the Miller/Skjei+ package honestly.

perhaps peg adds a young, lower ceiling young player back? Andrew Copp maybe?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I wouldn't trade Skjei for a late 1st.

Thats his current value though, if you compare his value to the value of others in his draft year.

 

[nyr__1994]

With any Canadian team - YES. Otherwise not so sure

Is the exchange rate better on Canadian draft picks?

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Trouba to New York would be nice but sad in the end I think he's super overrated cuz he's young

 

[I Eat Crow]

Winnipeg is pretty close to home for Marc Staal. Would they take him as an acceptable 2nd pair LHD? Please?

I think a team like Edmonton offers a much better package. I think they'd offer up Nurse or Klefbom. Still have one of those guys and Sekera on the left. Not a bad defensive corps.

 

[Tawnos]

Winnipeg is pretty close to home for Marc Staal. Would they take him as an acceptable 2nd pair LHD? Please?

I think a team like Edmonton offers a much better package. I think they'd offer up Nurse or Klefbom. Still have one of those guys and Sekera on the left. Not a bad defensive corps.

It's closer to home than NYC. They're about as close as Cleveland is to NYC, which is to say not very close at all.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Don't overpay for a guy who has asked for a trade because you have a shiny new toy syndrome. Only do it if you improve the team unquestionably.

Kreider and Brady?
JT. and Brady?
Zooks and Dylan?

No No and No

 

[rangers1314]

I think a team like Edmonton offers a much better package. I think they'd offer up Nurse or Klefbom. Still have one of those guys and Sekera on the left. Not a bad defensive corps.

I think a lot of teams can offer a package, unfortunately. So I agree its very low odds he ends up here.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Don't overpay for a guy who has asked for a trade because you have a shiny new toy syndrome. Only do it if you improve the team unquestionably.

Kreider and Brady?
JT. and Brady?
Zooks and Dylan?

No No and No

That one does, with out question.

 

[NickyFotiu]

That one does, with out question.

Plenty of questions if JT scores 50 points and Brady becomes a top 6 dman.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

It's closer to home than NYC. They're about as close as Cleveland is to NYC, which is to say not very close at all.

Well, now that's deceptive. Everything is farther away out there. If I'm not mistaken, the only NHL city closer to Thunder Bay than Winnipeg is Minneapolis (where Eric signed earlier this summer).

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Plenty of questions if JT scores 50 points and Brady becomes a top 6 dman.

Major if on JT, I do think Skjei is more or less a lock to be at least a solid third pair D though.

Trouba is already a top 4 RHD though. Thats an ultra rare commodity.

 

[Tawnos]

Well, now that's deceptive. Everything is farther away out there. If I'm not mistaken, the only NHL city closer to Thunder Bay than Winnipeg is Minneapolis (where Eric signed earlier this summer).

Unless you've traveled around west of the Mississippi, most of us Easterners don't have a real concept of how big this country, or Canada, really is.

And yes, Minneapolis is closer to Thunder Bay by about 100 miles.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Major if on JT, I do think Skjei is more or less a lock to be at least a solid third pair D though.

Trouba is already a top 4 RHD though. Thats an ultra rare commodity.

JT had 43 last season in basically his first full season in the nhl. I think he is almost a lock to score 50 or more sometime. That is only a 7 point improvement.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

JT had 43 last season in basically his first full season in the nhl. I think he is almost a lock to score 50 or more sometime. That is only a 7 point improvement.

With a 16 percent shooting percentage. Hes a 50 point scorer in the same way that Adam Henrique is a 50 point scorer, Only if he plays with elite line mates or has an insane shooting year.


I think 43-45 is what he settles into. Thats not shabby considering what else he brings to the table, but he shouldn't stand in the way of getting a top 4 (arguably top pair) RHD.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Unless you've traveled around west of the Mississippi, most of us Easterners don't have a real concept of how big this country, or Canada, really is.

And yes, Minneapolis is closer to Thunder Bay by about 100 miles.

Right, but I have. And an extra hour in the air makes a big difference, both for the player, and his family. If (and honestly, this is a point none of us really know) playing near where he grew up is something Marc would find appealing, there's Minnesota, then Winnipeg, then Chicago/Detroit, then everything else.