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Offseason Thread Part II
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I believe the distinction is that with Murray, fans overlook his ability to stay on the ice due to health, while with Nemeth, fans are ignoring what he actually does on the ice when he plays.
Cousin Eddie
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Heiskanen is actually the only player in the 80 percentile so Girard is definitely unique.
| Player | Position Type | Shoots | Age Range | Seasons | Continuous | Sim Score |
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| 1 | Miro Heiskanen | D | L | 19-21 | 18-21 | Y | 83.3 |
| 2 | Kris Russell | D | L | 21-23 | 08-11 | Y | 79.5 |
| 3 | Seth Jones | D | R | 19-21 | 14-17 | Y | 79.3 |
| 4 | Oliver Ekman-Larsson | D | L | 19-21 | 10-13 | Y | 78.7 |
| 5 | Oliver Ekman-Larsson | D | L | 21-23 | 12-15 | Y | 78.6 |
| 6 | Jared Spurgeon | D | R | 21-23 | 11-14 | Y | 78.4 |
| 7 | Oliver Ekman-Larsson | D | L | 20-22 | 11-14 | Y | 77.9 |
| 8 | Rasmus Dahlin | D | L | 18-20 | 18-21 | Y | 77.7 |
| 9 | Travis Sanheim | D | L | 22-24 | 18-21 | Y | 77.2 |
| 10 | Tj Brodie | D | L | 22-24 | 12-15 | Y | 77.1 |
| 11 | Seth Jones | D | R | 20-22 | 15-18 | Y | 77 |
| 12 | Brady Skjei | D | L | 22-24 | 16-19 | Y | 77 |
| 13 | Andrej Sekera | D | L | 22-24 | 08-11 | Y | 76.5 |
| 14 | Vince Dunn | D | L | 21-23 | 18-21 | Y | 76.4 |
| 15 | Shayne Gostisbehere | D | L | 22-24 | 15-18 | Y | 76.3 |
| 16 | Ryan Ellis | D | R | 20-22 | 11-14 | Y | 76.2 |
| 17 | Rasmus Andersson | D | R | 20-22 | 17-20 | Y | 76 |
| 18 | Rasmus Andersson | D | R | 21-23 | 18-21 | Y | 76 |
| 19 | Drew Doughty | D | R | 21-23 | 11-14 | Y | 75.7 |
| 20 | Kris Letang | D | R | 20-22 | 07-10 | Y | 75.6 |
Cousin Eddie
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Hennessy
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F*ck Parise. He's old, slow and isn't a team guy.
The Avs have some talent in the wings (no pun intended).
Let's see what Newhook et al can do.
The Avs have some talent in the wings (no pun intended).
Let's see what Newhook et al can do.
Tralfamadore
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True but I assume he won't play the same role when he gets to Pittsburgh with it being Crosby's team.
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Well, he has scored around one point every two games at times. That's what I based that on.
Not really an Avs target, Avs have like 2M in cap space. Don’t expect anymore signings.
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Avs could maneuver the cap if they really wanted, they just don't want to.
In other cap news, I see this as a pretty close estimate to where the cap will go over the next few seasons.
SERAVALLI: NHL salary cap projected to rise to $82.5 million in 2022-23 - Daily Faceoff
SoundwaveIsCharisma
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At least we were able to keep JT Compher. Sakic makes #CupOrBust moves.
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So we lost 4+ wins with our moves, 3rd worst drop in the NHL after the Yotes and the Canes.
Looks like losing Saad, Graves and Donskoi hurts us much more than Tampa losing Johnson, Gourde and Coleman.
Richard88
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How does this model factor in Byram and Newhook replacing Graves and Donskoi?
So you’re saying analytics god JTC can’t compensate? Colour me surprised.
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Neither have any impact in the NHL yet so I guess: not at all.
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What are you talking about? Compher is an analytics god now? Also he was already there, how could he compensate the loss of other players?
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Since it is data based and those two are essentially rookies I doubt it factors them in at all.
Richard88
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If that's the case then things aren't as bad as that graph suggests.
I also think the health of Kuemper, EJ, and Murray is hard to predict for a model like this and could make a huge difference.
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SoundwaveIsCharisma
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I do wonder what the models performance has been in the past. I remember there was quite a bit of hype for NJD a few years ago when they got Gusev and Subban in the off-season, and they were god awful.
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Not necessarily. Last year the lightning didn't have Kucherov which is probably hurt them in the standings at least a little bit. They were also in a tighter division. Unless they are comparing model to model and not model to actual from last year it doesn't really mean all that much.
Cousin Eddie
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You sure about that? Most GSVA models use totals (an algorithm of the last 3 year totals mostly weighted on the most recent season) instead of per game or 82 game projections. Not sure what Dom used here as he didn’t make it clear in the article but if he used 82 game projections the Avs numbers are definitely drastically inflated.
If they used rates instead of totals that would make Alex Newhook an upgrade on Connor Mcdavid based on last season. I have to assume they used totals as they almost always do.
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Makes literally no sense. He’s going purely by free agency.
He didn’t even include Byram and Newhook. No to mention he says Kuemper is no Grubauer. We’ll see about that.
Keep in mind that Dom goes off analytics and the underlying numbers of Colorado players are better than every other team. So the players coming in are going to seem much worse because they weren’t playing in the Colorado system and had worse underlying numbers.
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