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Reminds me of the Luke DeCock tweet(s) from a few days ago (the draft?) where he was also basically ******** on Francis for not making a trade, as if it doesn't take two parties to agree to a deal.
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. Definitely am a believer that you guys will be in the playoffs as early as next season.
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I think so. His highest point total is 28 and that was 13-14. I don't think he has the offense to be a 3C. His value is strictly in his defense.
If the deal was basically Kruger for a bag of pucks then you would think it would have been done by now.
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Yes.
You'll love him as a #4C but start to dislike him at #3C, he's one of those players.
He simply hasn't had the offense to play there, and especially for Carolina I see him best used at #4C.
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I knew that Kruger was relied upon for defensive duties, but I have to say I was genuinely surprised to see these kind of numbers.
2013-14 23 CHI NHL 81 902.9 773 724 51.6 -7.8 575 510 53.0 -6.4 7.7 92.1 99.8 20.9 79.1
2014-15 24 CHI NHL 81 873.4 839 760 52.5 -1.8 606 549 52.5 -0.6 4.6 93.6 98.2 24.1 75.9
2015-16 25 CHI NHL 41 453.5 399 426 48.4 -3.4 291 300 49.2 -0.7 4.7 93.4 98.1 18.7 81.3
2016-17 26 CHI NHL 70 819.4 728 718 50.3 -0.2 542 478 53.1 3.7 8.1 92.7 100.8 29.0 71.0
The bolded numbers are defensive zone start percentages. The absurdity of these numbers can't be understated. To have a CF% over 50 while starting 71% of your shifts in the defensive zone is just borderline miraculous. We're paying a premium for this type of player in terms of salary, but it damn well may be worth it. Cup experience to boot.
2013-14 23 CHI NHL 81 902.9 773 724 51.6 -7.8 575 510 53.0 -6.4 7.7 92.1 99.8 20.9 79.1
2014-15 24 CHI NHL 81 873.4 839 760 52.5 -1.8 606 549 52.5 -0.6 4.6 93.6 98.2 24.1 75.9
2015-16 25 CHI NHL 41 453.5 399 426 48.4 -3.4 291 300 49.2 -0.7 4.7 93.4 98.1 18.7 81.3
2016-17 26 CHI NHL 70 819.4 728 718 50.3 -0.2 542 478 53.1 3.7 8.1 92.7 100.8 29.0 71.0
The bolded numbers are defensive zone start percentages. The absurdity of these numbers can't be understated. To have a CF% over 50 while starting 71% of your shifts in the defensive zone is just borderline miraculous. We're paying a premium for this type of player in terms of salary, but it damn well may be worth it. Cup experience to boot.
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He's been a huge help for Toews, and has done wonders for Toews elite 2way status.
At this point, I don't see him being played as a 3C if acquired. We already have TT and Ryan who can do that better. And Peters likes the Skinner/Ryan/Stempniak line (mentioned it multiple times) so there is little chance that Kruger would be slotted above the 4C except in emergency situations.
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Above is what I basically assumed about him based on viewings and second hand info. He's utilized like McClement, except he isn't ****ing terrible at it. Which you know, is obviously exactly what Peters wants since he's had McClement doing that the entirety of his time here. Except Kruger is actually still young and good at it.
Ryan/TT and Rask start every O-Zone face-off and Staal or Kruger start every D-zone face-off. Is Ryan/TT and ideal 3C solution, no. Is Kruger an ideal D-zone 4th line option? You bet your ass he is. He's probably the best 4th line center in the league. JNo - Kruger - McGinn/Jooris/PDG would be a 10 minute per night plus PK staple. If they work their way through the first half of the season as a playoff contender, they can make a deal to replace Ryan in the top 9 with someone who is actually good.
The price for Kruger will determine whether or not this is actually a good idea. On the ice, this season, it would be hard to argue that he isn't going to fit in with exactly what the Canes are trying to accomplish and a position of need.
TT - Rask - Williams
Aho - Staal - Lindholm
Skinner - Ryan - Stempniak
Nordstrom - Kruger - McGinn/PDG/Jooris
Slavin - Pesce
Hanifin - Faulk
Fleury/Dahlbek-TVR
Darling
Ward
From last year during their winning streak after the trade deadline, they have either stayed the same or improved. TVR > Murphy/Tennyson, Williams > PDG/McGinn, Kruger > McClement/Wallmark/Brown, Darling > Ward/Lack.
Is that a Cup contender roster? No, of course not. But is that a team that can contend for a playoff spot? I think so.
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Last year Staal/Slavin were heavily relied upon to shut down top forwards. The 3rd pairing and McClement line were responsible for too many goals.
Upgrading the 3rd pairing to Fleury/TVR, upgrading the bottom-6 with Kruger, and upgrading goal with Darling is a huge secondary upgrade. If Williams can pot some goals and the young forwards continue to develop the Canes should be in the Playoffs.
Upgrading the 3rd pairing to Fleury/TVR, upgrading the bottom-6 with Kruger, and upgrading goal with Darling is a huge secondary upgrade. If Williams can pot some goals and the young forwards continue to develop the Canes should be in the Playoffs.
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Peters gave that as a line that's going to be together early this season at Summerfest.
Because after the Williams signing, Peters said as much when asked about lines. If coach likes that combo, probably should write it down with a pen.
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TT - Rask - Williams
Aho - Staal - Lindholm
Skinner - Ryan - Stempiak
Nordstrom - Kruger - McGinn
Jooris
Slavin - Pesce
Hanifin - Faulk
Fluery - TVR
Dahlbeck
Darling
Ward
Aho - Staal - Lindholm
Skinner - Ryan - Stempiak
Nordstrom - Kruger - McGinn
Jooris
Slavin - Pesce
Hanifin - Faulk
Fluery - TVR
Dahlbeck
Darling
Ward
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IMO theres a diminishing point of returns on how good a player you really want to put on Skinners line. He's been matched with a number of different 'good' centers over the years with no real benefit in production for either player.
I don't see this as a bad thing though. It means you can put him out there with just about any halfway competent linemates and still expect 30 goals and spread the talent you would otherwise use with him throughout the rest of the lineup.
I think this explanation would make more sense to people if he had a C by his name instead of LW, but whatevs
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Honestly, if (I know) everyone plays at the top of their game, this could be a team that challenges for the Cup. It's not the most talented team, but it is sound with the right mix. There are holes, but it's nothing a trade deadline deal can't fix. Not very deep though. Don't get hurt.
This is the most optimistic I've been in a long time.
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I think it's a #4 team, maybe higher if Darling keeps a .928 for 60 games.
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You know, what's most impressive about this offseason, is RF has been able to make definitive upgrades at goalie, 1 defense spot and 2 forward spots in the everyday lineup and only managed to add about 4 million in salary above last year's payroll. That's amazing to me.
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If he can still score while dragging their carcasses around like last year that's a win.
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The PDG/Nordstrom/McGinn/Jooris dynamic is something to watch. PDG might be sporting another sweater come October, which is weird because he does have NHL skills. The fact that we might have to waive an NHL talent because he doesn't fit what we do stylistically is weird. I still don't think we sign Jooris without a plan to have him play. I doubt we'd be able to sell him on coming in to compete for the 13th spot. It just seems like a weird thing to pursue him if he's going to be your healthy extra.
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If he puts up 35 on the 3rd and Ryan and Stemp combine for 20, that's a solid 3rd line.
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