Speculation: Off-Season Roster Building/Line Combos Thread

[enviSAGE]

But all I was trying to say was, with a couple good trades, this turnaround can be one of the quickest ever seen in NHL history. And you didn't even need John Tavares to do it.

Trade Faulk this year for Kapanen+
Trade Fox and Rask next year for Athanasiou
Trade Fleury+ for one of the Islanders goalie prospects
And in 19-20 you have a roster going places the likes of which only Justin Williams has ever seen:

 

[Unsustainable]

Your image makes less sense then your trade proposals.

 

[CandyCanes]

Everybody drink. Though I would consider Fleury for one of the Isles goalie prospects

 

[Breakdowns]

Very insistent with your trades, huh?

 

[Roboturner913]

Martinook’s role is an interesting question. It’s easy to assume that he’s got a spot locked down, but we’ve thought that about a few guys who just completely washed out before they were halfway through the season.

Speak for yourself! I personally haven't been this sure about a 4th liner since Marcus Kruger

 

[Stickpucker]

Am I in the wrong thread?

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Speak for yourself! I personally haven't been this sure about a 4th liner since Marcus Kruger

You make joke, but I hear Kruger is a legitimate game breaker.

 

[AD Skinner]

I would bet like a dollar that Faulk outscores kapanen and Rask is within 5 points of athanasiou... I don't think either of those players are anything worth giving up assets for

 

[dogbazinho]

Would be disappointed in all of those trades.

 

[spockBokk]

But all I was trying to say was, with a couple good trades, this turnaround can be one of the quickest ever seen in NHL history. And you didn't even need John Tavares to do it.

Trade Faulk this year for Kapanen+
Trade Fox and Rask next year for Athanasiou
Trade Fleury+ for one of the Islanders goalie prospects
And in 19-20 you have a roster going places the likes of which only Justin Williams has ever seen:

Why do you insist on trading Fox, arguably our top D prospect, AND Rask for Andreas frigging Athanasiou??? A guy who’s never broken 20g? Don’t we lready have prospects that fit that bill...ahem Pu or Foegele?

Ridiculous proposal...you certainly posted that one on the wrong thread...

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

More middle-six forwards is what this team is lacking, for sure.

Make all those trades - I want to see this “quickest turnaround in nhl history”.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

JFC, people. We're getting offers for Athanasiou and you're turning them down?

A few more trades like this and we're literally at the top of the league.

Imagine:

Athanasiou-Aho-Abdelkader
Arvidsson-Anisimov-Atkinson
Andreoff-Amadio-Anderson
Aberg-Acciari-Agostino

Alzner-Alt
Auvitu-Aho
Andersson-Antipin

Allen
Andersen
Anderson

 

[Navin R Slavin]

JFC, people. We're getting offers for Athanasiou and you're turning them down?

A few more trades like this and we're literally at the top of the league.

Imagine:

Athanasiou-Aho-Abdelkader
Arvidsson-Anisimov-Atkinson
Andreoff-Amadio-Anderson
Aberg-Acciari-Agostino

Alzner-Alt
Auvitu-Aho
Andersson-Antipin

Allen
Andersen
Anderson

And for those who need fancy stats to see the obvious:

Players

 

[Lempo]

And for those who need fancy stats to see the obvious:

Players

If I interpret it correctly those players on the roster would put us to first in the Metropolitan.

 

[NotOpie]

JFC, people. We're getting offers for Athanasiou and you're turning them down?

A few more trades like this and we're literally at the top of the league.

Imagine:

Athanasiou-Aho-Abdelkader
Arvidsson-Anisimov-Atkinson
Andreoff-Amadio-Anderson
Aberg-Acciari-Agostino

Alzner-Alt
Auvitu-Aho
Andersson-Antipin

Allen
Andersen
Anderson

Straight A's baby, straight A's...

 

[MinJaBen]

JFC, people. We're getting offers for Athanasiou and you're turning them down?

A few more trades like this and we're literally at the top of the league.

Imagine:

Athanasiou-Aho-Abdelkader
Arvidsson-Anisimov-Atkinson
Andreoff-Amadio-Anderson
Aberg-Acciari-Agostino

Alzner-Alt
Auvitu-Aho
Andersson-Antipin

Allen
Andersen
Anderson

I know you'd be excited to get all these guys...I'm sure they would have been at the top of your prospect ratings.

 

[Negan4Coach]

But all I was trying to say was, with a couple good trades, this turnaround can be one of the quickest ever seen in NHL history. And you didn't even need John Tavares to do it.

Trade Faulk this year for Kapanen+
Trade Fox and Rask next year for Athanasiou
Trade Fleury+ for one of the Islanders goalie prospects
And in 19-20 you have a roster going places the likes of which only Justin Williams has ever seen:

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All the trades aside...why in the name of Zeus's butthole would Svech be on the 3rd line?

 

[NotOpie]

All the trades aside...why in the name of Zeus's butthole would Svech be on the 3rd line?

I don't know....rookie.....best opportunity for favorable match ups....stuff like that....maybe.

 

[bleedgreen]

Being 18.

If he doesn’t flat out beat guys for spots I certainly hope he isn’t higher than the third line.

 

[Ippenator]

But all I was trying to say was, with a couple good trades, this turnaround can be one of the quickest ever seen in NHL history. And you didn't even need John Tavares to do it.

Trade Faulk this year for Kapanen+
Trade Fox and Rask next year for Athanasiou
Trade Fleury+ for one of the Islanders goalie prospects
And in 19-20 you have a roster going places the likes of which only Justin Williams has ever seen:

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I sense a speedskating fetish here. Trading for speedsters without good hockey IQ and with not too good hands and then putting them to your top 6 doesn't sound at all good to me.

Skating has become in that way overrated in hockey, that too many people believe that great skating without very good hockey IQ and soft hands is really that useful automatically to play in a top 6 role. Great skating might be useful without great other skills, but then the player is not a top 6 player for sure.

 

[NotOpie]

But all I was trying to say was, with a couple good trades, this turnaround can be one of the quickest ever seen in NHL history. And you didn't even need John Tavares to do it.

Trade Faulk this year for Kapanen+
Trade Fox and Rask next year for Athanasiou
Trade Fleury+ for one of the Islanders goalie prospects
And in 19-20 you have a roster going places the likes of which only Justin Williams has ever seen:

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There are not enough ways to say no to this. We need a proven scorer and proven goaltending and this team likely competes in the playoffs. We'll be young and are already pretty fast. Kapanen and Athanasiou (both of whom I like) don't make the difference. As has been said, Rask has a better scoring history than Athanasiou. Kapanen is a proven AHL commodity....we've got a couple of those guys that I just happen to like better (Foegele, Saarela, etc.). I'm not ready to trade Fleury unless he's part of a larger, more impactful package. Faulk is due for a bounce back and might actually be the better option for our power play than Hamilton.

All things considered this proposal does nothing buy add middle sixers and a goalie prospect. We need to be thinking more about the now instead of another year or two in the future.

 

[Negan4Coach]

I don't know....rookie.....best opportunity for favorable match ups....stuff like that....maybe.

Yeah but IRL do we expect him to be on the 3rd line? New face of the franchise, etc.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

People get too hung up on line designations, particularly for this team that doesn’t yet have a true 1C. For instance, Skinner was technically on the 3rd line last year, but had the 3rd most ESTOI/ game among forwards.

Not saying it will happen, but I could easily see a scenario where Necas and Svechnikov are on a line together and it’s viewed as a third line. Won’t be the case forever though, but early on I could see it. Canes want to put him in a spot to succeed more than anything.

 

[Lempo]

Yeah but IRL do we expect him to be on the 3rd line? New face of the franchise, etc.

If the new 18 y.o. guy isn't McDavid, the 3rd line tops is pretty much guaranteed. The high draft pick making it to the NHL roster immediately after the Draft for full season is a rare feat enough already.

Plus the 3rd line match-up is probably better for him to try and push himself to the league top 10 in G/A/P/PpGP for the Schedule B Performance Bonus bragging rights anyway. Nothing says that your franchise has got a stud like paying him $3.5M of real money for a season played on ELC.

 

[Negan4Coach]

If the new 18 y.o. guy isn't McDavid, the 3rd line tops is pretty much guaranteed. The high draft pick making it to the NHL roster immediately after the Draft for full season is a rare feat enough already.

Plus the 3rd line match-up is probably better for him to try and push himself to the league top 10 in G/A/P/PpGP for the Schedule B Performance Bonus bragging rights anyway. Nothing says that your franchise has got a stud like paying him $3.5M of real money for a season played on ELC.

Yeah but, Svech is basically like a #1OA in a regular draft year, correct?

Did Matthews, Hall and Tavares wind up on the 3rd line their rookie year? I mean maybe they did, I have no idea.

I seem to recall Skinner on the 1st line with Eric Cole and Stillman his rookie season- or is that erroneous?

I get that he was used on the 3rd line the past couple of years- I thought that was a peculiarity of the Peter's system. or do other teams do stuff like put the top goal scorer on that line?