Speculation: Nylander XXIII - The Today Will Be a **** Show One Way or Another Edition (MOD WARNING IN OP)

[DRW204]

When was the last time a RFA sat out a whole season? I'm sure it's been answered in the thread but it's hard to keep up.

Peca i believe 2000-2001

 

[Critical13]

He will sign. Book it lads!

 

[Yatzhee]

and he is right because he would get almost the same amount of money this year in Russia. and next year get a million or 2 million more a year on a long term contract on another team.

Bingo!!!!

 

[Dynamite Time]

Nylander to Arizona.

I’m not a Leaf fan at all but I can only imagine what a distraction this has been. Leafs have a good young/veteran group of forwards, could use the cap space going forward and could get a top 4-dman in a good trade.

Just picked Arizona cause it was the first team that popped in my mind. Hell send him to LA, Van, StL or whoever but get something you need out of it. Leafs are a real good team this year, etc.

 

[FerrisRox]

Yashin?

Mark Giordano was well after that.

 

[Arizonan God]

I'm gunna be pissed at both sides if this oesn't get resolved. They are playing chicken over no more than $500k. Just get the deal done and let's get moving.

 

[inthe6ix]

Yashin?

Yashin was under contract; he wanted to re-negotiate it.

Think maybe Peca and Lindros were the last ones.

 

[JT Kreider]

Agree. Roenick said it well in his tweet btw.


He should just sign a six year deal close to seven million and he can get his huge payday in 5,5 years when he already has 40 million in his account because he signed a fair deal for what he had done prior to his contract... Poor guy

That's easy for Roenick to say with a net worth approaching $40 million

 

[PWJunior]

Yashin?

Sean Bergenheim sat out an entire season when he didn't re-sign under Wang's deadline of the 1st game of the season or something. I think he played in Europe that year and then returned the next season to the team and continued his NHL career.

 

[VoteForTavares]

Yashin?

I think he was actually under contract when he sat out his year...

 

[JPeeper]

I think maybe Mark Giordano.

Gio's situation was different, he wasn't a sit out because of money, he didn't get signed because he wasn't very good. He himself has said that going to the KHL really woke him up to how he needed to play and when he came back to the NHL he was a different player.

 

[These Are The Days]

and he is right because he would get almost the same amount of money this year in Russia. and next year get a million or 2 million more a year on a long term contract on another team.

Pretty much but I doubt it'll be long term though. Nylander holds all the cards here. He's one of the bright young talents of the game. If the Leafs don't pay him someone else will.

 

[wwvdw]

Top players in the KHL make just over a million US. Even tax free, thats less than what he makes here. And he plays in an inferior league, and I don't think he wants to play there over the NHL.

Sobotka made $2.6 million playing for Omsk (the team that has Nylanders rights) in 2016. He would lose money but perhaps not as much as he would lose by signing below value.

 

[Vintage93]

That's easy for Roenick to say with a net worth approaching $40 million

Guess what Willy's would be if he signed?

 

[Whileee]

Agents and players have figured out that the RFA system means that NHL teams get their best players' best years at discount values.

NHL teams trying to compete realize that their success depends on a model where their best young players are playing at below market value.

If Dubas holds the line and either gets Nylander at a good price, or forces Nylander to play outside the NHL this season he would leap to the front of the unofficial "GM of the Year" contest, if other GMs voted on it.

 

[These Are The Days]

Lol JR. Is that really what the Leafs are offering or are you blowing smoke again?

 

[glucker]

Your blindness to the situation was matched months ago by so many other Leafs fans who said, and I quote....."It won't be a problem to sign them"...….unquote.

As this plays out for the Leafs over the next 2 to 5 years, we'll shall see. But as of right now, today, the 1st "Cap Casualty" of that Tavares signing sure does appear to be a reality.

It shouldn't have been difficult. These responses were to posts that didn't get the basic math behind the cap space the Leafs had. If Nylander doesn't sign, it's because he's not being a rational actor, and that's hard to predict.

If Nylander is willing to sign fair value between 6.5-7M to start, this would have been done a while ago. If the rumour is true, and he actually expected 8.5, and refused to budget from that for a while, then it's an extenuating circumstance.

 

[seanlinden]

Sobotka made $2.6 million playing for Omsk (the team that has Nylanders rights) in 2016. He would lose money but perhaps not as much as he would lose by signing below value.

The question / challenge is, does he really see his bargaining position improving 7 months from now?

 

[Filthy Dangles]

time is nigh

 

[TMLeafs17]

Who wants to avatar bet? I’m betting Willy signs in Toronto in the next 4 hours and 6 minutes. Anyone? Put your avatar where your mouth is!

 

[FerrisRox]

Gio's situation was different, he wasn't a sit out because of money, he didn't get signed because he wasn't very good. He himself has said that going to the KHL really woke him up to how he needed to play and when he came back to the NHL he was a different player.

The question was: When was the last time an unsigned RFA sat out the entire season.

He felt he proved all he could prove at the AHL level and the Flames wouldn't give him a one-way deal so he left to play against higher competition in the KHL. After a solid season in Russia, the Flames changed their tune and gave him an one-way contract.

 

[sansabri]

Agree. Roenick said it well in his tweet btw.


He should just sign a six year deal close to seven million and he can get his huge payday in 5,5 years when he already has 40 million in his account because he signed a fair deal for what he had done prior to his contract... Poor guy

Um... wouldn't this had been over a long time ago if Dubas was willing to offer that?

 

[Jtown]

If you've taken it this far, might as well go to the final hour.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

There is no scenario where he makes no money this year. If he isn't signed in the next few hours, he will be in the KHL before the sun sets making tax-free dollars.

If worst comes to worst, I think he'd do better monetarily in the SEL over the KHL.

 

[Babooch]

No idea what the result will be today. But he plays one more season max with the Leafs. Taking it this far makes it too personal and/or too dramatic for everyone...himself, teammates, management media and fans.