Speculation: Nylander XXIII - The Today Will Be a **** Show One Way or Another Edition (MOD WARNING IN OP)

[HoweHullOrr]

Why on earth would Nylander sign a $3 or $4 million contract?

I can't see the motivation either. He'd probably want a 2 - 4 year bridge that brings him to (or minimally closer to) free agency. A five (5) year term would be good too (or even better for WN), but can't see the Leafs doing that as it would be really bad for them. Leafs would want enough term (but not five years) to make him attractive to potential trading partners if Dubas can't reach agreement with Willy's camp in the summer (by or around July 1).

 

[These Are The Days]

Nylander isn't going to cave in. His father is likely imploring young William to stick to his guns and that a year in Europe instead of the NHL isn't so bad because he did it before too

 

[varano]

The KHL gold rush is over.

Yeah...its a very different time now. Very little KHL teams actually make money

 

[The Crypto Guy]

When was the last time a RFA sat out a whole season? I'm sure it's been answered in the thread but it's hard to keep up.

 

[FerrisRox]

So what? Did he sign there? Wanna bet WN doesn't sign for anything close to that?

Two years ago, Kovalchuk and Datsyuk were the KHL's two highest players at $4.5. Nice try though.

I'm not suggesting Nylander would get $7 million dollars. I'm refuting the idiotic claim that top players in the KHL make $1 million.

Surely you could have discerned that by, you know, reading the post?

 

[DoobieDubas]

Top Khl players can make significantly more then a million, Nylander would become likely top or top three paid guys in the khl. Payrolls can be found online, last time I looked top guy was paid about 5 million us. Nylander would make less then the nhl true, but not even close to a million

is there season not started? he wont make full seaons money if so

 

[Matt24]

This isn’t getting done, is it? I don’t see how Nylander plays another game as a Leaf it doesn’t. Relationship will be untenable between both him and the organization and him and the fanbase.

 

[Helistin]

Datsyuk and Kovalchuk made/make between 4.5-5.5M because they are Russian legends there. You think that they pay Nylander anywhere close to their home grown legends, and the fans and everyone there will be ok with that? He's not making more there than the NHL.

But you just said few minutes ago that top players make just over a million in KHL?

Like this.

Top players in the KHL make just over a million US. Even tax free, thats less than what he makes here. And he plays in an inferior league, and I don't think he wants to play there over the NHL.

 

[VoteForTavares]

It's extremely rare for the KHL to get a European star in their prime. Nylander, even pro-rated, would get offered a nice contract and it is *entirely* tax-free. It would be quite easy for him to make a significant chunk of change this year in the KHL. Even if he was offered a $3 million deal, with the lack of taxes, he would still come out on top.

You are burying your heading the sand to pretend otherwise.

Right, so if it's so great I can't seem to understand why there isn't a lineup of players going over there.

 

[FerrisRox]

When was the last time a RFA sat out a whole season? I'm sure it's been answered in the thread but it's hard to keep up.

I think maybe Mark Giordano.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Radulov turned down a $7 million US contract in the KHL to sign with the Montreal Canadiens back in 2016.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Radulov was a high profile Russian star, and one of the best in the KHL, during a time when the league wasn't in the financial mess that it is now. That rumoured contract was used entirely for NHL negotiations, and would have never been signed, and/or never paid out in full.

The league is a financial mess, it's losing teams, it's rigged for 2 teams that can afford to pay players that I'm pretty sure Nylander couldn't even join. Nylander would be risking not only his happiness, success and development, but also his financial security, especially if he gets injured.

The only players who make even remotely close to half of what Nylander would make in the NHL, are legendary Russian stars, and the league has only gone downhill from then.

There is also less than half of the KHL season left to go, so any amount he would make is already more than cut in half.

The KHL is not a real option.

 

[Yatzhee]

I feel bad for you if you think I'm reading all that.


Genius, he can't play in the NHL, that's all that matters. There's no risk for the Leafs. They're a top 3 team in the league and a legit cup contender without him. Unless the right deal comes along, he's staying put.

And LOL if Nylander isn't signed then the Leafs have no problems fitting in Matthews and Marner and have no cap concerns. Nylander will come back at a price warranted for his production or he'll sit at home. The Leafs have no problem with it. And they'll have a great chance at winning the cup with or without him.

Your blindness to the situation was matched months ago by so many other Leafs fans who said, and I quote....."It won't be a problem to sign them"...….unquote.

As this plays out for the Leafs over the next 2 to 5 years, we'll shall see. But as of right now, today, the 1st "Cap Casualty" of that Tavares signing sure does appear to be a reality.

 

[VoteForTavares]

But you just said few minutes ago that top players make just over a million in KHL?

Like this.

Top players ya, legends make more. Top players in the NHL make 5-6 million, and yet there are legends making 10-12.

 

[hockeyes]

Sure you did. You just didn't use the exact word.

Nope, if that is what I wanted to say I would have said it. I don't think Nylander is greedy or wrong, it's fully in his right to ask for whatever he wants. I have no problem with him sitting/getting traded to get what he wants if that is the hill he wants to die on. It's his career, not mine.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Don't know why Dubas shouldn't try to max out the potential of the team, maybe I'm just stupid.

You just answered your own question.

 

[FerrisRox]

Right, so if it's so great I can't seem to understand why there isn't a lineup of players going over there.

It's not so great. It's got all kinds of problems and is clearly a step below the NHL in many regards.

But to pretend it isn't a viable plan B - and a way for Nylander to recoup some of the million he will lose this year is beyond stupid.

 

[seanlinden]

Yes but they can negotiate with him and other teams before it gets to arbitration next summer. It just buys more time.

The Leafs have had 16 months to negotiate with Nylander, and haven't come to a deal. I don't think another 8 months is going to make a difference.

Bottom line is, they need him either locked up until Marleau is gone, or need him gone.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Any speculation on where he will play if he doesn't sign?

 

[WesMcCauley]

For some of you, logic is your kryptonite.

Go to the KHL and when he wants to come back, the Leafs still own him. Willie sure has the Leafs over a barrel.

He's not an idiot. He's signing today.

Agree. Roenick said it well in his tweet btw.


He should just sign a six year deal close to seven million and he can get his huge payday in 5,5 years when he already has 40 million in his account because he signed a fair deal for what he had done prior to his contract... Poor guy

 

[Helistin]

Top players ya, legends make more. Top players in the NHL make 5-6 million, and yet there are legends making 10-12.

Sure

 

[HoweHullOrr]

Nylander

Nice. Thx.

 

[FerrisRox]

The KHL is not a real option.

So you are saying if Nylander doesn't sign today he won't play in the KHL this year?

 

[Nalens Oga]

Okay Willy and Dubas, heheh you guys can stop the game of chicken now. Any day now... *nervous laugh*

 

[JT Kreider]

When was the last time a RFA sat out a whole season? I'm sure it's been answered in the thread but it's hard to keep up.

Yashin?

 

[ffh]

Nylander isn't going to cave in. His father is likely imploring young William to stick to his guns and that a year in Europe instead of the NHL isn't so bad because he did it before too

and he is right because he would get almost the same amount of money this year in Russia. and next year get a million or 2 million more a year on a long term contract on another team.