Speculation: Nylander XXII - all Nylander discussion here (MOD WARNING IN OP)

[ManwithNoIdentity]

As a non Leaf fan I’ll suggest that Leaf fans ignore the insulting comments. After years of struggling Leafs have a top notch team. Leafs made the bold decision to sign JT and go for it. They have an open window and the fans should be excited. They have Matthews Marner and JT up front. Plus supporting guys like Kapanen and Kadri. Top notch forwards. A solid goalie and a defense that is not great but they have a few good pieces and it’s not like PIT or WAS had top notch defenses when they won. If Nylander doesn’t fit the salary structure then just trade him. He won’t return an equal forward but he’ll return a good defender. It won’t be a Notris caliber player but a very good player that can help the Leafs. Nylander is a very good player but the Leafs can win without him if he would rather sit than change his demand.

There quite a few leaf haters that despite that can appreciate how stacked they are. Lumping everyone together is absurd.

 

[indigobuffalo]

DW the tire kicker is probably around. Braun +?? Magic Beans?

Considering Dubas is reportedly asking for Slavin from Carolina I would have to believe that Braun + isn’t in the conversation.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Considering Dubas is reportedly asking for Slavin from Carolina I would have to believe that Braun + isn’t in the conversation.

Slavin? Good luck with that

 

[jasonleaffan]

Why does this thread have an emoji of a coffee cup with a turd in it on the front page?

Looks like a glue bottle.

 

[Crazy Joe Divola]

Considering Dubas is reportedly asking for Slavin from Carolina I would have to believe that Braun + isn’t in the conversation.

This is DW. He only emerges from his tanning bed to inexplicably swindle other GM’s before slinking back into the booth.

 

[indigobuffalo]

Slavin? Good luck with that

It’s just what’s been reported. Could be the initial ask and then maybe they’d settle on Faulk+ or Pesce ++

 

[indigobuffalo]

This is DW. He only emerges from his tanning bed to inexplicably swindle other GM’s before slinking back into the booth.

Sure... I’ve seen many an example. But Dubas has zero pressure to make a move so he’s going to get a return similar to Sakic got on Duchene. Or Nylander will sit and then maybe sit some more.

Although frankly I think he just signs.

 

[hockeyguy1967]

I honestly can’t believe Nylander would rather sit out a season than lower his price a little bit. That just seems like bad advice from the people whispering in his ear.

You do not even know what he has been offered

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Nylander will be coming to Chicago e5

 

[TheNumber4]

what if its Nylander wanting more than hes worth not Dubas paying him unfairly [mod]

Lol "What if." What if Nylander is being held hostage by aliens to sit out the season. You got to be pretty naïve to think that the Leafs who have one of the most expensive RFAs of recent history in Matthews up for contract, Marner a top 10 production player up for contract, and about 4-5 other players needing contracts next year on top of the most expensive free agent in the Cap era in Tavares will pay a complementary piece like Nylander fairly.

There's lots of teams in the league that are starved for stars like Nylander who would happily pay him what he wants. Toronto is trying to stinge him, it's the most obvious reason why this "negotiation" has turned into such a shit show.

 

[MMC]

Not sure I get all this “there’s no pressure for Dubas to make a move” talk. If he doesn’t, he’ll then have to worry about signing him, Kapanen, Matthews, Marner, and Gardiner next offseason. I’m sure he’d rather not do that.

 

[Amadeus]

Not sure I get all this “there’s no pressure for Dubas to make a move” talk. If he doesn’t, he’ll then have to worry about signing him, Kapanen, Matthews, Marner, and Gardiner next offseason. I’m sure he’d rather not do that.

Or we could trade him then for a better package. We're contenders without him as well.

 

[redgrant]

I honestly can’t believe Nylander would rather sit out a season than lower his price a little bit. That just seems like bad advice from the people whispering in his ear.

He's constantly been treated poorly by leafs. They're going to lead him on and trade him the second its convenient.

Their core is marner Matthews Tavares. Him and Kadri are expendable.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

One fair proposal on Nylanders end, that is if the Leafs want to keep him, is give him top dollar just for this season and a AAV of $5.5 for the remaining seven years. Something like that anyway.

 

[Crazy Joe Divola]

Not sure I get all this “there’s no pressure for Dubas to make a move” talk. If he doesn’t, he’ll then have to worry about signing him, Kapanen, Matthews, Marner, and Gardiner next offseason. I’m sure he’d rather not do that.

Not to mention if he knows that Nylander isnt staying, the longer he holds him out the less he’s going to return whenever he does return to hockey. Letting him sit for a season or longer isn’t going to strengthen the offers for a guy who hasn’t played for that long.

Meh, just fun speculation anyway, I’d expect a short term deal to be worked out then he either walks at the end or is traded next season before they let him wither on the vine.

 

[Crow]

Nylander will be coming to Chicago e5

For who? I’m not that interested considering he wants top dollar plus we lose an asset. I’d rather see this team build one last year and sign panarin(or less probable stone). No asset given up.

 

[Antropovsky]

He's constantly been treated poorly by leafs. They're going to lead him on and trade him the second its convenient.

Their core is marner Matthews Tavares. Him and Kadri are expendable.

What makes you think he has been treaded poorly? He was strapped to Matthews, since game 1 of Matthews career (for the most part).

Sounds like a pretty good opportunity to score alot of points and get a nice contract to me.

 

[BM14]

He's constantly been treated poorly by leafs. They're going to lead him on and trade him the second its convenient.

Their core is marner Matthews Tavares. Him and Kadri are expendable.

OH NOESSS THE FEELINGS *SADFACE

 

[leburn98]

As a Bruins fan with a bias against the Leafs adding that one D piece they are missing this would be the best possible scenario; they don't get assets for him and they don't get him.

Sadly, I don't think they will let this trade chip sit when they are so close to a legitimate cup run. This isn't hate talk, this is observing a team missing one piece in the third period of game seven and then possibly adding that piece and Tavares; that's a cup contender.

Agreed. I think this is what many are missing. Having the deadline pass does not mean that Nylander is completely out of play as an asset. I see a lot of opposing fans hoping and praying that Willy sits. All I can say is be careful what you wish for.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Not sure I get all this “there’s no pressure for Dubas to make a move” talk. If he doesn’t, he’ll then have to worry about signing him, Kapanen, Matthews, Marner, and Gardiner next offseason. I’m sure he’d rather not do that.

If he doesn't sign tomorrow, he's never playing for the Leafs again. So, no need to worry about signing him.

It's then only a question of whether he's dealt at the deadline or around the draft.

 

[Todd Skill]

If the deadline comes and goes, can the Leafs trade Nylander to a team that’s out of it / tanking, for someone to play for them this year (knowing full well that Willy can’t play for his new team this year)?

 

[winnipegger]

Nylander for Larsson. Just admit you f***ed up and get McDavid a good winger.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Lmao TSN out here making Babcock look like an idiot.

Yesterdays headline

Babock " nylander is going to be a Leaf for life "

Today's headline

Babcock " were not begging anyone to be a leaf"


Bruh just say nothing...

 

[Yatzhee]

What makes you think he has been treaded poorly? He was strapped to Matthews, since game 1 of Matthews career (for the most part).

Sounds like a pretty good opportunity to score alot of points and get a nice contract to me.

What's the point of being strapped to Mathews for a nice contract that will never come, since, you know, all the other teams know it was Mathews that made you, not yourself............

I swear, some posts just scream for a chuckle.

 

[Coach Parker]

I honestly can’t believe Nylander would rather sit out a season than lower his price a little bit. That just seems like bad advice from the people whispering in his ear.

Or good advice for everyone playing in the NHL if it is fellow players whispering in his ear to not relent at all. A lot of future RFA's watching this and wanting him to get the maximum amount and a lot of GM's applauding the new GM in Toronto.

Just poor timing of the order of things for him it seems.