Speculation: Nylander III

[Sundinisagod]

Get real if Nylander wanted $6.5 million per, He'd already be resigned. He wants far more then that. Hence why he's not resigned yet.

Speaking of getting real, it will be the Nylander camp that buckles and accepts the Leafs offer (which at 6.5 is fair market value), not the other way around.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Get real if Nylander wanted $6.5 million per, He'd already be resigned. He wants far more then that. Hence why he's not resigned yet.

Not with that agent. Didn't start seriously negotiations until the day before the season started with Gaudreau in 2016 according to Burke.

 

[sxvnert]

Willys leverage ended the minute JT signed. Truth is the leafs dont need him to win games so without the losses pilling up theres no fan back lash whatsoever.

 

[KPower]

Get real if Nylander wanted $6.5 million per, He'd already be resigned. He wants far more then that. Hence why he's not resigned yet.

You obviously don’t understand how RFA works.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

You obviously don’t understand how RFA works.

....do you even understand how it works?

 

[KPower]

....do you even understand how it works?

Yes and Nylander has zero leverage and will cave very soon.

 

[Liferleafer]

Get real if Nylander wanted $6.5 million per, He'd already be resigned. He wants far more then that. Hence why he's not resigned yet.

Sure....but he's not going to get "far more'.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

You obviously don’t understand how RFA works.

Probably more so then you do? Very few RFA signing go to 3 days before the NHL season kicks off.

 

[egd27]

Ehlers had an extension in place last year, cap inflation and torontos other young stars potential much higher payout has nylanders camp wanting more.

Cap inflation was 6%......so 6.36 X 7. Pass me the pen

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Sure....but he's not going to get "far more'.

Possibly closer to $7 million per, But i agree he's not going to get much more. The Larkin signing pretty much sealed Nylanders fate. I think $6.5 million is more then fair for Willy. But obviously he and his agent don't.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Probably more so then you do? Very few RFA signing go to 3 days before the NHL season kicks off.

Except Gaudreau who is also a client of Nylander agent Lewis Gross.

Burke said he didnt start Gaudreau negotiations until the day before the 2016 season

 

[A1LeafNation]

Yes and Nylander has zero leverage and will cave very soon.

It's not that he will have, it's that his agent will start being more reasonable starting Out 2 according to Burke.

 

[The Podium]

Probably more so then you do? Very few RFA signing go to 3 days before the NHL season kicks off.

Still happens about once a year or 2. Trouba and Gaudreau being the most recent examples.

 

[egd27]

Except Gaudreau who is also a client of Nylander agent Lewis Gross.

Burke said he didnt start Gaudreau negotiations until the day before the 2016 season

I'd quite liked Burke's comment last night.

It went something like "The Leafs really don't need more of what this player brings"

 

[CellarDweller0]

His agent is a pos according to Burke.

I was wondering if this has nothing to do with Nylander and it's his agent mishandling the negotiations. A lot of player just leave it in the hands of the agent. Do you have link to where Burke says this?

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Possibly closer to $7 million per, But i agree he's not going to get much more. The Larkin signing pretty much sealed Nylanders fate. I think $6.5 million is more then fair for Willy. But obviously he and his agent don't.

If Nylander decides to sign for 5 years like Larkin, sure.

 

[A1LeafNation]

I was wondering if this has nothing to do with Nylander and it's his agent mishandling the negotiations. A lot of player just leave it in the hands of the agent. Do you have link to where Burke says this?

Burke said it on TV last night and on HC@noon the day before.

 

[paulhiggins]

Not with that agent. Didn't start seriously negotiations until the day before the season started with Gaudreau in 2016 according to Burke.

With an agent like that you wait till he's signed and then send him to the AHL for conditioning purposes. And when he's back he gets to practice with the team for a couple weeks before playing. You send a message that it's ok to hold out but you're going to training camp no matter what.

 

[Scintillating10]

22 years old, back to back 61 point seasons and great chemistry with Matthews.

You don't trade that for Petry.

Not at that money no

 

[Wanderson]

Michael Nylander had a pretty bad reputation in the league. According to a few news articles a couple of teams had William on the no-draft-list because of his dads reputation.

A former teammate said this about Micheal; “He was a talented guy but a me-first type, selfish. He wasn’t a coach killer, but he wasn’t committed to the team concept. If he gets his goals, gets his contract . . . whatever he can get out of it.”

Another who played with Michael called him “the worst teammate I ever had . . . it was always all about him.”

Big Read: What the Maple Leafs risked by drafting William Nylander - Sportsnet.ca

Since William hasn’t signed his contract yet, I guess he might be just like his dad. He cares about his personal contract, not about the team. I don’t think he will sign for a dollar less than 7.5 million per year. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

 

[Byzantium]

Michael Nylander had a pretty bad reputation in the league. According to a few news articles a couple of teams had William on the no-draft-list because of his dads reputation.

A former teammate said this about Micheal; “He was a talented guy but a me-first type, selfish. He wasn’t a coach killer, but he wasn’t committed to the team concept. If he gets his goals, gets his contract . . . whatever he can get out of it.”

Another who played with Michael called him “the worst teammate I ever had . . . it was always all about him.”

Big Read: What the Maple Leafs risked by drafting William Nylander - Sportsnet.ca

Since William hasn’t signed his contract yet, I guess he might be just like his dad. He cares about his personal contract, not about the team. I don’t think he will sign for a dollar less than 7.5 million per year. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

Not taking a pay cut doesn't mean he doesn't care about the team . It's not his fault they signed Tavares and not his responsibility accommodate.

 

[Liferleafer]

Not at that money no

What money?

 

[sansabri]

Michael Nylander had a pretty bad reputation in the league. According to a few news articles a couple of teams had William on the no-draft-list because of his dads reputation.

A former teammate said this about Micheal; “He was a talented guy but a me-first type, selfish. He wasn’t a coach killer, but he wasn’t committed to the team concept. If he gets his goals, gets his contract . . . whatever he can get out of it.”

Another who played with Michael called him “the worst teammate I ever had . . . it was always all about him.”

Big Read: What the Maple Leafs risked by drafting William Nylander - Sportsnet.ca

Since William hasn’t signed his contract yet, I guess he might be just like his dad. He cares about his personal contract, not about the team. I don’t think he will sign for a dollar less than 7.5 million per year. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

That's not uncommon. Hockey is a job.

 

[FalcorMulch]

Get real if Nylander wanted $6.5 million per, He'd already be resigned. He wants far more then that. Hence why he's not resigned yet.

If Gaudreau wanted $6.75 million he would have signed well before October 10th, right?

 

[voxel]

Also on Sportsnet.ca - another quote from Burke that I agree with:

“I honestly believe they’re going to go for a long-term deal,” Burke continued. “Kyle Dubas is doing this just right … Make him take a long-term deal at your number, and then he’s tradable. They’ll get way more for him if he’s signed for six years than they will if he’s signed on a bridge deal.”

Don't bridge. Sign him long term and trade him if you need cap space.