Proposal: Nylander for Bertuzzi

[BinCookin]

These Threads are always problematic due to it devolving into "My Player is better than your player" ...

Insults towards every player on both teams are thrown.

Lets just say this. As a Red Wings fan, I like Bertuzzi. I probably wouldn't want to trade him.
Nylander is the better and more valuable player.

I just don't think there is much interest here on EITHER team moving these players.

So unrealistic trade proposal because I think Toronto already addressed their major need (Defense) in Brodie.
I can't think of a good reason for them to want Bertuzzi at this price.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Wings add a non protected first and it's close

Nylander isn't worth Detroit's non-protected first on its own...

 

[Kranix]

Since when is Nylander a centre

 

[mydnyte]

Since when is Nylander a centre

thats his natural position, but, he is not playing ahead of Mathews/Tavares and is wasted on the 3rd line paired with fillers, though he did C the 3rd line a few times last year, and 2nd C when they stacked Tavares-Mathews-Marner.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Nylander is better than Larkin and would be #1C over him.

1. No
2. He should maybe actually start playing C before you declare him a #1C

 

[Kranix]

thats his natural position, but, he is not playing ahead of Mathews/Tavares and is wasted on the 3rd line paired with fillers, though he did C the 3rd line a few times last year, and 2nd C when they stacked Tavares-Mathews-Marner.

Ya but if I haven't lost my marbles he was usually playing wing with Matthews until this year.

 

[IPS]

1. No
2. He should maybe actually start playing C before you declare him a #1C

He has played C and in the looks he's had at center he was easily better than Larkin.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Nylander is underrated.



Yeah man, for sure.

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1. So much more to hockey than what was tracked here.

2. 176 minutes tracked? So like 10 games? What a massive sample...

 

[Hammettf2b]

It's a running joke how much Babcock hated Nylander.

Which is another reason the Wings wouldn't do this trade. Blashill is Babcock lite.

 

[nbwingsfan]

He has played C and in the looks he's had at center he was easily better than Larkin.

Yeah? Have any shred of evidence to go with this? Also playing like 10 games over 4 years at C doesn't make you a C?

*Easily* better than Larkin despite never reaching Larkin's career high while being worse defensively, playing the vast majority of his career at an easier position AND playing with vastly better hockey players on an offensive team. Interesting theory big guy!

 

[Kranix]

He has played C and in the looks he's had at center he was easily better than Larkin.

Oh stop it. "Looks." How many games at centre? A minuscule amount compared to the games he played on Matthews or Tavares' wing.

 

[DougGilmour93]

Bertuzzi + (something decent) for Nylander

 

[Steddy33]

Its mind boggling that people (Toronto fans) still don't understand Nylander isn't the type of player you win with in the playoffs. The point is to win the cup isnt it?.

I take my chances with Bertuzzi over Nylander in the playoffs.

 

[Steddy33]

He has played C and in the looks he's had at center he was easily better than Larkin.

Shit like this is embarrassing it's so wrong

 

[Kranix]

So I guess that would have meant Kapanen and Johnsson and Hyman and Mikheyev would be 70 point players too..
Oh wait.

What a crock of shit.

Man. This is nonsensical. Take it to the Justin Holl coming out party thread and congratulate your friends there.

 

[Kranix]

I wouldnt make this trade for Hyman

They're out in full force lol. Wild. But predictable

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

He has played C and in the looks he's had at center he was easily better than Larkin.

You're totally delusional if you honestly think that 10 games in 4 years Nylander has looked and played better then Larkin. Larkin is a complete 200 foot Center that can do circles around Nylander.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Bertuzzi + (something decent) for Nylander

Nylander is obviously slightly better then Bertuzz, I'd do Bertuzzi+Edmonton's 2021 2nd round pick that's about all.

 

[Henkka]

Its mind boggling that people (Toronto fans) still don't understand Nylander isn't the type of player you win with in the playoffs. The point is to win the cup isnt it?.

I take my chances with Bertuzzi over Nylander in the playoffs.

Nope. Better regular season player collecting easy points here and there on inflated high-scoring games...

...must be better playoff performer!

Must be.

 

[Zenos]

He has played C and in the looks he's had at center he was easily better than Larkin.

easily? You can't honestly believe that.

.... can you?

 

[WingsMJN2965]

He has played C and in the looks he's had at center he was easily better than Larkin.

Every time he's been separated from Matthews his production has plummeted lol.

 

[varano]

Larkin is a natural center, and Nylander isn't so let's put that stupidity to bed.

Nylander is better than Bertuzzi though so I wouldn't want to do this trade. I think Bertuzzi is a good firey player , but the trade value makes no sense

 

[The Red Line]

The only thing Larkin has over Nylander is speed.

Yeah that and grit, offense, defense, heart, physicality, leadership, two-way play, contract...

But I do have to give you some credit - you’re absolutely right, Larkin is much much faster than Nylander in addition to all of the above.

 

[nbwingsfan]

The only thing Larkin has over Nylander is speed.

Interesting that Larkin has the two highest point totals of the two of them despute being on a much much worse team if Nylander is such a clearly better player? Hel

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Which is another reason the Wings wouldn't do this trade. Blashill is Babcock lite.

the Gardiner bit killed me