Confirmed Trade: [NYI/NJD] Kyle Palmieri, Travis Zajac (both @50%) for AJ Greer, M Jobst, 21 1st, cdnl 22/23 3rd/4th

[Thrasymachus]

both quality players but isnt this redundant for them. They already have 4 lines of those 2 players, minus Barzal of course. Excellent depth but dont really see this as an improvement.

for the record I agree... this doesn't move the needle for us so much as insulate us from further injury

I like the depth a lot though honestly.

 

[Thrasymachus]

What? NJ got 2 picks, Greer, and Jobst. I am not saying that Lou got fleeced, but he paid plenty.

It is cute how you list those two as if they have any value whatsoever

 

[Olliemets]

Rivalry? Devils and Islanders literally exist to counter the Rangers. Their common enemy makes them friends.

Wow!!! So much hate for the Isles. I totally respect the group of Ranger fans who understand the game, love their team, and have stuck with them through their up and many down periods.

Seem to be more of them though that talk about the Rangers like they're the Yankees/Patriots.....when their history reads more like that of the Jets.

 

[saintunspecified]

Most saw a deal coming. I thought the Isles would get wood rather than Zajac, but as many dev fans noted he might not be for sale.

I'm glad it wasn't Wood. I had enough of players named Wood skating really fast and running into things they didn't see coming back the in the late 80s.

To think of it, I think Kreider modeled his game after Randy Wood's too.

 

[steveat]

Ok, so that's one team out for the Taylor Hall Sweepstakes. I think Isles took 2 players to not only go deep in playoffs, but added padding for whomever Seattle takes.

 

[Satans Hockey]

The two teams have also rarely ever been good at the same time, which further diminishes the rivalry. The Devils have been in NJ for almost 40 years and the two teams have met in the playoffs just once - back in 1988 in the 1st round. Unless you're in your 40's, you probably don't have any recollection of that series.

Proximity only counts so much - playoffs really cement rivalries. I consider Carolina more of a rival than the Islanders for NJ despite only coming into their division a few years back due to some of the playoff battles between the two teams.

Big difference in Carolina is I don't like their team but I don't care at all about their fan base. There's barely any of their fans at our games, the Islanders fans come out of the wood work lately and have been just as horrid in our building over the past few years and act like Rangers fans in a different shade of blue.

Hope they lose as many games as possible the rest of the season and then get swept in the playoffs. Gimmie that highest pick possible please. I root for the logo on the front and not the name on the back.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

How good are Zajac and Palmeri at these points of their careers? Are they still legit second liners?

 

[GRob83]

Ok, so that's one team out for the Taylor Hall Sweepstakes. I think Isles took 2 players to not only go deep in playoffs, but added padding for whomever Seattle takes.

Both players the Islanders acquired are on expiring contracts so as long as they don't re-sign them before the expansion draft they won't need to be protected.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Ok, so that's one team out for the Taylor Hall Sweepstakes. I think Isles took 2 players to not only go deep in playoffs, but added padding for whomever Seattle takes.

NYI wouldn't have been a good fit for Hall anyways. He doesn't fit in Trotz system and Hall has been a loser wherever he has gone. So whichever team he gets traded to on Monday, that team will do nothing but lose.

 

[TBF1972]

Done. We're allowed to field a team of 25, right? So we can have 5 lines of 3 forwards, 8 D and 2 goalies?

yes
and you are allowed to play them all at the same time.

 

[saintunspecified]

NYI wouldn't have been a good fit for Hall anyways. He doesn't fit in Trotz system and Hall has been a loser wherever he has gone. So whichever team he gets traded to on Monday, that team will do nothing but lose.

I don't know why people say this. Why wouldn't he have been a good fit? Just because he hasn't been in an NHL environment with a disciplined structured approach doesn't mean he can't do it. I've seen him play a lot. He backchecks. He has not been a lazy player (until now, lol, but who knows). Would you have thought that Jordan Eberle could play in Trotz's system? He does. He came from the same environment, and was criticized nearly as much.

 

[noupf]

Ok, so that's one team out for the Taylor Hall Sweepstakes. I think Isles took 2 players to not only go deep in playoffs, but added padding for whomever Seattle takes.

Both are free agents at the end of this season, so seattle has nothing to do with it

 

[goonybird]

the Devils got a first + 4th (possible 3rd) for expiring contracts/players

you guys need to find jesus or go for a walk or something

 

[MikeyMike01]

Good trade for isles. They overpaid for Pageau last year, buy made up for it with this trade

I don’t think you’ll find any Islanders fan who feels that they overpaid for Pageau.

 

[Deen]

for the record I agree... this doesn't move the needle for us so much as insulate us from further injury

I like the depth a lot though honestly.

Guy, You're in for a treat. Those are two very good players. I'd take hairy Palms over Hall at this point.

 

[noupf]

I am just surprised that the Devils didn't wait till deadline day or maybe the day before. I'd have to assume that the bidding for those two players would have been a littler better no?

 

[cwede]

What? NJ got 2 picks, Greer, and Jobst. I am not saying that Lou got fleeced, but he paid plenty.

sorry, i disagree, NYI really didn't pay 'plenty', compared to recent past TDL's, for accomplished rentals
the "prospects' are 24 and 27, marginal hopeful-upside guys

not bashing the deal or the GMs,
i think it reflects that this TDL is strongly a buyers' market
the odd season format, the Seattle draft, and especially the very flat Cap for next few seasons may all be factors

 

[saintunspecified]

Guy, You're in for a treat. Those are two very good players. I'd take hairy Palms over Hall at this point.

Lou demands his Palms shaved.

 

[BelovedIsles]

I like the deal from NYI's POV. A late 1st most likely culminates into a player who never sees the NHL, or does 4 years from now. NYI have a small Cup window with this current group (Bailey, Lee, Ebs, Cizikas). This moves the needle enough to put them in the conversation. Ideally, I'd like these two *in addition to Lee.

Palms is now the most proven shoot-first goalscorer NYI have. I suspect he'll be reinvigorated playing for a contender and possibly with Barzal. He can also see weaker D men on the 2nd line and will boost the PP.

Zajac is just the kind of playoff grinder NYI needs on the 3rd line with JPG and Wahlstrom. He can do the dirty work for them and cycle that puck.

Not sure NYI is a shoe-in for a Cup, but they are better than last year and will be a really tough match for any team.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I don't know why people say this. Why wouldn't he have been a good fit? Just because he hasn't been in an NHL environment with a disciplined structured approach doesn't mean he can't do it. I've seen him play a lot. He backchecks. He has not been a lazy player (until now, lol, but who knows). Would you have thought that Jordan Eberle could play in Trotz's system? He does. He came from the same environment, and was criticized nearly as much.

Because Hall carries a losing trend to each team he plays for. Sure he's a decent 2 way player now and can back check but you don't win with guys like him on your team.

 

[Esq]

How good are Zajac and Palmeri at these points of their careers? Are they still legit second liners?

Palmieri -- yes
Zajac -- no

 

[saintunspecified]

Not sure NYI is a shoe-in for a Cup, but they are better than last year and will be a really tough match for any team.

The whole playoffs is a giant wild card this year. Every team's focus should be coming out of their division. After that, anyone could play anyone. Could be an East vs. West, East vs. Central, or East vs. North Semi. No way to know until the teams are out. These moves were based on NYI making things toughest on Washington, Pittsburgh, and Boston. This was a message to them more than the rest of the league.

 

[LFCTML]

Wow - Nice bit of business from NJ.
Gotta respect the willingness to go all-in from the Isles too, but I still don't see them coming out of that division tbh.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I wouldn't label anyone as a "warm body" until they have had a few years. Look at FLA right now. They are doing quite well with players that leaf fans labeled as "career AHLers".

Who is on FLA a 27y with no AHL experience like Jobst ? Greer never convinced at NHL level either, I am not sure who fits this bill in FLA ?

 

[2ndGenIslander]

Wow!!! So much hate for the Isles. I totally respect the group of Ranger fans who understand the game, love their team, and have stuck with them through their up and many down periods.

Seem to be more of them though that talk about the Rangers like they're the Yankees/Patriots.....when their history reads more like that of the Jets.

We all band together in our unrelenting hate for the rangers and their success, including their one cup win since the invasion of normandy