Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYI] Isles Sign Josh Ho-Sang (1 Year, $700k, two-way)

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c_mak

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Give this guy a mirror cause that's who he should be looking at when he tries to blame someone. What a God given waste of talent Brutal
 
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SwedishFire

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i think he just needs to go to the Norweigen league, figure it out, get his head on straight. then when he does, go back to the Swedish league, and figure it out. then to the AHL, and figure it out. THEN he will be ready for the big time! :sarcasm:

i think, if he wants to develope and fight for it - and have have good numbers and be a public fav; finnish leauge.

If he wans to develope and be a berter player, tjat will takensome mental challenges; the swedish leauge. They have excellent hockey fundamentals coaching, defensive thinking, teamplay and highly strategic thinking.

But once again. That if I could decide for him. I bet he takes a shortcut like the Brittish leauge or something.
 

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I don't know if I've ever seen a player so hyped and confident in his abilities but that has actually never really done anything.

I'm shocked that moves such as this haven't resulted in more NHL success...........I think he's just waiting for the opportunity to do it during a game. He would need a 5 second head start on a breakaway though.

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To easy to read for NHL goalies.

He has some hands, and some talent.
But when you had heard praise and having succes on flashy plays since young childhood, it probably stays as reference for him.

He has the worst sides of Alex Kovalev and Jonathan Drouin. Will forever be captured in his own headcase.
 
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Tonessy toneead for NHL goalies.

He has some hands, and some talent.
But when you had heard praise and having succes on flashy plays since young childhood, it probably stays as reference for him.

He has the worst sides of Alex Kovalev and Jonathan Drouin. Will forever be captured in his own headcase.

That's an awesome phrase right there!
 

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i think he just needs to go to the Norweigen league, figure it out, get his head on straight. then when he does, go back to the Swedish league, and figure it out. then to the AHL, and figure it out. THEN he will be ready for the big time! :sarcasm:
So you’re saying there’s a chance?
 

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But oh man, when you even see the NHL highlights there is a special skill, his way of stop on a dine, changing directions, make good plays quick is elite. He could be a 60 pt player.

Play him with another skilled player, and I think he can cash out.

Barzal on his own team is already a puckhog, so why not HoSang then
 

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I do have a theory. To stay in NHL as a forward you either have to be consistent goal scorer, a passing wizard, a big power forward with ability to contribute on secondary scoring and good with hits and taking pucks off players on the board or corner, or excel at face-off or penalty killing. You can have all the fancy skills but if you can't help to produce and does nothing to learn the defensive side of the game, coaches will not let you stay in the line-up because you can have negative value.

I think for JHS to want to make and stay in NHL, he has to do few things now:

- decide if he really wants to pursue a AHL or NHL career, if so he needs to set up a S.M.A.R.T. plan and stay positive and passionate about the game. If he is not motivated enough, he will not stick to his plan and succeed.

- train hard, build endurance and get in top physical shape, a must for top pro athletes in any sport

- learn how to kill penalty, watch tons of video, hire a defensive specialist coach tow work with him one on one and practice killing penalties and stick check in his own time, maybe even learning how to win face-offs. Ask coaches to give a chance to learn how to do this starting with drills in minor league and then work his way up, conquering one task at a time. Yes he may have to learn how to block shots without getting serious hurt as often you may be required to do so on PK.

- sharpen up his shooting skills, in particular how fast he can shoot and aim for the five targets - top and lower corner and five holes. Rent a rink or convert his garage and purchase a target shooting machine for practices. Check out and practice with different sticks until you find one best improve your shot without negatively impact the puck handling. If you can shoot quickly, goalies can't see your shot and may miss the puck as you can only stop what you can see unless you get lucky. If you can aim for the five holes, you have even a better chance to beat the goalies. practice shooting from all kinds of angle as you can't always be in the preferred spot to shoot the pucks. Deflecting shots can also be worked on later but it is more important to manage the first shot, especially when facing the goalie alone. I would also add practicing how to receive a pass even a bouncing one because without having the puck on your stick in the right place/angle & settle it down you will not be able to get a good shot away. Good shooters can turn a so so pass into a good one. JHS lacks the NHL size to be always able to carry the puck up by himself, especially when going against bigger elite puck checking forward and defenseman so he has to learn to be either a great passer or be better at receiving a quick pass anywhere on the ice. If he has a shot first mentality this is particularly important.

- put in the time to study all top 6 forwards and top 4 defenseman in the NHL, pay close attention to see what they do on ice and how they use their skills and puck management to be successful in game situation. Open up and ask veterans for help whenever he needs it. Knowing your opposition will also sharpen your understanding of the game and be more ready to play.

I think he can always pass, handle pucks and definitely skate well. Maybe his hockey IQ need some work though. But if you train yourself to be more focused, battle ready, and be always prepared for the games, the hockey IQ can improve with experience. A good timely sleep, proper diet and meditating can all help with focus.

He is not too old to work his way back. He needs to know his plan extremely well and be very discipline to stick to work on those little parts one at a time. Aim small at first and then aim big once he knows he is close.

If AHL/NHL is not for him, then he better start searching for other education/skills and aim for a new career. He has to understand that he has to prove that he is willing to prove to his sport team that he will put in the extra work to stay on the right path of a become a full time sport pro.

Do not try to be someone else. Every hockey player is unique, knowing his own strength, limit, and weakness is a must to start analysing himself and executing his plan.

Be professional, reliable and know your place. Stay away from criticizing coach, teammates, management, and any staff until you become a proven veteran leader on the team.
Better to stay quiet and respectful when you have not yet come close to making the team consistently. The only time you should file a complaint is when your civil right has been abused.
 
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I do have a theory. To stay in NHL as a forward you either have to be consistent goal scorer, a passing wizard, a big power forward with ability to contribute on secondary scoring and good with hits and taking pucks off players on the board or corner, or excel at face-off or penalty killing. You can have all the fancy skills but if you can't help to produce and does nothing to learn the defensive side of the game, coaches will not let you stay in the line-up because you can have negative value.

I think for JHS to want to make and stay in NHL, he has to do few things now:

- decide if he really wants to pursue a AHL or NHL career, if so he needs to set up a S.M.A.R.T. plan and stay positive and passionate about the game. If he is not motivated enough, he will not stick to his plan and succeed.

- train hard, build endurance and get in top physical shape, a must for top pro athletes in any sport

- learn how to kill penalty, watch tons of video, hire a defensive specialist coach tow work with him one on one and practice killing penalties and stick check in his own time, maybe even learning how to win face-offs. Ask coaches to give a chance to learn how to do this starting with drills in minor league and then work his way up, conquering one task at a time. Yes he may have to learn how to block shots without getting serious hurt as often you may be required to do so on PK.

- sharpen up his shooting skills, in particular how fast he can shoot and aim for the five targets - top and lower corner and five holes. Rent a rink or convert his garage and purchase a target shooting machine for practices. Check out and practice with different sticks until you find one best improve your shot without negatively impact the puck handling. If you can shoot quickly, goalies can't see your shot and may miss the puck as you can only stop what you can see unless you get lucky. If you can aim for the five holes, you have even a better chance to beat the goalies. practice shooting from all kinds of angle as you can't always be in the preferred spot to shoot the pucks. Deflecting shots can also be worked on later but it is more important to manage the first shot, especially when facing the goalie alone. I would also add practicing how to receive a pass even a bouncing one because without having the puck on your stick in the right place/angle & settle it down you will not be able to get a good shot away. Good shooters can turn a so so pass into a good one. JHS lacks the NHL size to be always able to carry the puck up by himself, especially when going against bigger elite puck checking forward and defenseman so he has to learn to be either a great passer or be better at receiving a quick pass anywhere on the ice. If he has a shot first mentality this is particularly important.

- put in the time to study all top 6 forwards and top 4 defenseman in the NHL, pay close attention to see what they do on ice and how they use their skills and puck management to be successful in game situation. Open up and ask veterans for help whenever he needs it. Knowing your opposition will also sharpen your understanding of the game and be more ready to play.

I think he can always pass, handle pucks and definitely skate well. Maybe his hockey IQ need some work though. But if you train yourself to be more focused, battle ready, and be always prepared for the games, the hockey IQ can improve with experience. A good timely sleep, proper diet and meditating can all help with focus.

He is not too old to work his way back. He needs to know his plan extremely well and be very discipline to stick to work on those little parts one at a time. Aim small at first and then aim big once he knows he is close.

If AHL/NHL is not for him, then he better start searching for other education/skills and aim for a new career. He has to understand that he has to prove that he is willing to prove to his sport team that he will put in the extra work to stay on the right path of a become a full time sport pro.

Do not try to be someone else. Every hockey player is unique, knowing his own strength, limit, and weakness is a must to start analysing himself and executing his plan.

Be professional, reliable and know your place. Stay away from criticizing coach, teammates, management, and any staff until you become a proven veteran leader on the team.
Better to stay quiet and respectful when you have not yet come close to making the team consistently. The only time you should file a complaint is when your civil right has been abused.
You put more effort into that post than JHS has put into his career recently.
 

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Migod, the amount of space and thought wasted on this guy. For the longest time it was everyone's else fault but his own. Coaches, GM's, other players, leagues, racists... It's funny how you can have a little guy like Jared Spurgeon, a 6th round munchkin who wasn't even offered a minor league contract for the team that drafted him overcome all sorts of obstacles to become a top 20 Dman in the league, yet JHS does nothing but underperform, while all sorts of excuses are made for him.
 

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come back to north america and make the most of the short AHL season I guess .

he's still rfa in offseason 2021 according to capfriendly so just cut him loose
 

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But oh man, when you even see the NHL highlights there is a special skill, his way of stop on a dine, changing directions, make good plays quick is elite. He could be a 60 pt player.

Play him with another skilled player, and I think he can cash out.

Barzal on his own team is already a puckhog, so why not HoSang then

Barzal plays hockey.

Ho Sang plays pond hockey. And shows up late.
 

Sidney the Kidney

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Barzal plays hockey.

Ho Sang plays pond hockey. And shows up late.

Yeah this idea that Barzal and Ho-Sang play the same style of game just because both can be flashy with the puck and skate well is crazy.

Barzal's game is suited to the NHL and can succeed in the NHL. Ho-Sang's game is suited to looking good in junior when he can skate around for a minute against 16 and 17 year olds whose hockey ability likely sees them going into careers outside of hockey once their junior careers are done.

Ho-Sang is a better skating, worse shooting Robbie Schremp. They both play a style that doesn't work in the NHL, and neither were willing to adjust their game to what will work in the NHL.
 

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I thought he was waived before the start of the year.
True, but doesnt he need to pass again if he is going to be assigned to the AHL? I think it only last a month or something like that.
 

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How does one continue to be a problem everywhere he goes yet still not get it? I can’t wait to see him blame the team
 

isles55

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He was impressive in the NHL only a few years ago. The fact that he couldn’t cut it with a SHL team just shows that he hasn’t taken his career seriously.
 
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