Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYI] Isles Sign Josh Ho-Sang (1 Year, $700k, two-way)

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I do have a theory. To stay in NHL as a forward you either have to be consistent goal scorer, a passing wizard, a big power forward with ability to contribute on secondary scoring and good with hits and taking pucks off players on the board or corner, or excel at face-off or penalty killing. You can have all the fancy skills but if you can't help to produce and does nothing to learn the defensive side of the game, coaches will not let you stay in the line-up because you can have negative value.

I think for JHS to want to make and stay in NHL, he has to do few things now:

- decide if he really wants to pursue a AHL or NHL career, if so he needs to set up a S.M.A.R.T. plan and stay positive and passionate about the game. If he is not motivated enough, he will not stick to his plan and succeed.

- train hard, build endurance and get in top physical shape, a must for top pro athletes in any sport

- learn how to kill penalty, watch tons of video, hire a defensive specialist coach tow work with him one on one and practice killing penalties and stick check in his own time, maybe even learning how to win face-offs. Ask coaches to give a chance to learn how to do this starting with drills in minor league and then work his way up, conquering one task at a time. Yes he may have to learn how to block shots without getting serious hurt as often you may be required to do so on PK.

- sharpen up his shooting skills, in particular how fast he can shoot and aim for the five targets - top and lower corner and five holes. Rent a rink or convert his garage and purchase a target shooting machine for practices. Check out and practice with different sticks until you find one best improve your shot without negatively impact the puck handling. If you can shoot quickly, goalies can't see your shot and may miss the puck as you can only stop what you can see unless you get lucky. If you can aim for the five holes, you have even a better chance to beat the goalies. practice shooting from all kinds of angle as you can't always be in the preferred spot to shoot the pucks. Deflecting shots can also be worked on later but it is more important to manage the first shot, especially when facing the goalie alone. I would also add practicing how to receive a pass even a bouncing one because without having the puck on your stick in the right place/angle & settle it down you will not be able to get a good shot away. Good shooters can turn a so so pass into a good one. JHS lacks the NHL size to be always able to carry the puck up by himself, especially when going against bigger elite puck checking forward and defenseman so he has to learn to be either a great passer or be better at receiving a quick pass anywhere on the ice. If he has a shot first mentality this is particularly important.

- put in the time to study all top 6 forwards and top 4 defenseman in the NHL, pay close attention to see what they do on ice and how they use their skills and puck management to be successful in game situation. Open up and ask veterans for help whenever he needs it. Knowing your opposition will also sharpen your understanding of the game and be more ready to play.

I think he can always pass, handle pucks and definitely skate well. Maybe his hockey IQ need some work though. But if you train yourself to be more focused, battle ready, and be always prepared for the games, the hockey IQ can improve with experience. A good timely sleep, proper diet and meditating can all help with focus.

He is not too old to work his way back. He needs to know his plan extremely well and be very discipline to stick to work on those little parts one at a time. Aim small at first and then aim big once he knows he is close.

If AHL/NHL is not for him, then he better start searching for other education/skills and aim for a new career. He has to understand that he has to prove that he is willing to prove to his sport team that he will put in the extra work to stay on the right path of a become a full time sport pro.

Do not try to be someone else. Every hockey player is unique, knowing his own strength, limit, and weakness is a must to start analysing himself and executing his plan.

Be professional, reliable and know your place. Stay away from criticizing coach, teammates, management, and any staff until you become a proven veteran leader on the team.
Better to stay quiet and respectful when you have not yet come close to making the team consistently. The only time you should file a complaint is when your civil right has been abused.
I don’t think any player in the nhl goes that hard. Josh probably goes overseas, becomes a star and makes a few million.
 

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OR he hadnt played a game in a year+, and was competing against guys who have played more recently and are closer to game ready than him.
I get the impression talent wasn't his problem. honestly, from what little I've seen of him, he's VERY talented.
 

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I get the impression talent wasn't his problem. honestly, from what little I've seen of him, he's VERY talented.
I think he is just a guy who is feeling dejected. I think if he is put on the right team and given the right suport system, he should be a NHLer right now. It seems like the Islanders have tried the 'tough love' approach, which obviously hasnt worked.

He is seeing people he views as less talented getting more play time on the Isles than him.

It seems (from the outside) that every time he makes a mistake it becomes a massive issue (which may be self inflicted, the media loves poking cocky players in every sport) and he gets demoted or punished. I can tell you having been around a good amount of young hockey players, his compete level during games and his miscues are not much different than most players his age.
 

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I think he is just a guy who is feeling dejected. I think if he is put on the right team and given the right suport system, he should be a NHLer right now. It seems like the Islanders have tried the 'tough love' approach, which obviously hasnt worked.

He is seeing people he views as less talented getting more play time on the Isles than him.

It seems (from the outside) that every time he makes a mistake it becomes a massive issue (which may be self inflicted, the media loves poking cocky players in every sport) and he gets demoted or punished. I can tell you having been around a good amount of young hockey players, his compete level during games and his miscues are not much different than most players his age.

Not to mention Lou really doesn't like him and has hung him out to dry publicly more then once. Who knows why that old bastard resigned him. Hard to see it being anything but "he wont get to play anywhere if we sign him and bury him"
 

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Not to mention Lou really doesn't like him and has hung him out to dry publicly more then once. Who knows why that old bastard resigned him. Hard to see it being anything but "he wont get to play anywhere if we sign him and bury him"
I dont recall the times Lou has hung him out to dry publicly. Can you provide a link to these stories?

Also, he has passed through waivers twice now, so any team that wanted him had ample opportunity to pick him up.
 
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I think he is just a guy who is feeling dejected. I think if he is put on the right team and given the right suport system, he should be a NHLer right now. It seems like the Islanders have tried the 'tough love' approach, which obviously hasnt worked.

He is seeing people he views as less talented getting more play time on the Isles than him.

It seems (from the outside) that every time he makes a mistake it becomes a massive issue (which may be self inflicted, the media loves poking cocky players in every sport) and he gets demoted or punished. I can tell you having been around a good amount of young hockey players, his compete level during games and his miscues are not much different than most players his age.

I don’t like JHS at all, nor would I want my team to take him on as a reclamation project, but think this hits the nail on the head. Well said.
 

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I don’t like JHS at all, nor would I want my team to take him on as a reclamation project, but think this hits the nail on the head. Well said.
Thanks!

His numbers (at least the public ones) and the eye test show an NHL player, someone who could beat out a good amount of the 3rd liners in the NHL today. Could be he is a bad guy, could be he developed a bad reputation because he was so confident and outspoken in Jr. Could also be he stands up for himself in situations where other players back down (this is sadly something that happens a good amount in youth sports, a good player wont take a beating from a coach, and gets labeled as hard to coach/ having an attitude problem)

Obviously I am a Leafs fan, but I think given a proper training camp and support he could beat out most of our bottom 6 for a spot. Heck we just brought in Galch who struggles was more defensively than JHS to replace Vessey, another guy who has had some concerns around attitude/not being able to put it together.
 

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Thanks!

His numbers (at least the public ones) and the eye test show an NHL player, someone who could beat out a good amount of the 3rd liners in the NHL today. Could be he is a bad guy, could be he developed a bad reputation because he was so confident and outspoken in Jr. Could also be he stands up for himself in situations where other players back down (this is sadly something that happens a good amount in youth sports, a good player wont take a beating from a coach, and gets labeled as hard to coach/ having an attitude problem)

Obviously I am a Leafs fan, but I think given a proper training camp and support he could beat out most of our bottom 6 for a spot. Heck we just brought in Galch who struggles was more defensively than JHS to replace Vessey, another guy who has had some concerns around attitude/not being able to put it together.

the problem I see here is, he's not a bottom 6 player. if he's not in the top 6 he's not going to be very effective. I DO believe he has top 6 talent. but with everyone else, I wonder why no one has claimed him when he's been on waivers, or why someone wouldn't throw a low round pick to the Isles for a tryout.
there's got to be some kind of whispering about him in the industry that's making everyone stay away
 
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