Rumor: NSH, TOR & BOS inquiring on Chris Kreider

[justafan22]

For the record, Dubas has never said he would not trade any of Kapanen, Johnsson, Liljegren or Sandin. I think its safe to assume he'd rather keep them all but I'm quite sure he understands you need to give to get. Not that it means he'll make a deal involving any of them either. Just depends what he gets offered

It's been reported he isn't trading them for rentals.

I doubt he deals them for 1 year left players too.

 

[Trxjw]

I can't see the Rangers trading Kreider for a package that lacks an NHL player. They need some sort of buffer in there. They'll get enough futures for Hayes, McQuaid and Zucc.

 

[Sypher04]

It's been reported he isn't trading them for rentals.

I doubt he deals them for 1 year left players too.

My point is only that being reported and Dubas saying it are two extremely different things.

 

[Breakers]

After Stone this guy is the 2nd best player available.

He is sooo good 5v5

 

[ccman68]

After Stone this guy is the 2nd best player available.

He is sooo good 5v5

ever heard of Panarin?

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Liljigren, kapanen. Rasanen

Lmao no chance...

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Sandin kapanen and 2019 2nd and 2019 1st.

I could be convinced to change sandin to Bracco if the picks are added.

Kreider turn into a star all of a sudden lol

 

[Team Cozens]

As per Larry Brooks:


https://nypost.com/2019/02/21/thanks-for-your-service-its-time-to-sit-hayes-and-zuccarello/

This ain't a buyers market......

 

[Jyrki Lumme]

We will retain salary on shatty for zaitsev and Johnsson

Haha no shit you would.

 

[Hookslide]

I wouldn't trade Kreider to Boston at all because none of their prospects interest me enough to consider a deal. Don't try to sell me on Carlo because I saw him get embarrassed by Chytil the last time we played Boston. From Toronto I would want a 2020 1st + Sandin + at least one other major piece. From Nashville 2020 1st + Tolvanen + at least one other major piece which unless its Fabbro its gotta be two prospects of the tier just below Fabbro. Everyone will say it's an overpayment, and that is probably true. I don't care. Kreider is one of the league leaders in GAR this season. You don't trade a player like him on that contract to a contender unless the offer completely blows you away. For Kreider you need to get a younger player whose ceiling is greater than what Kreider currently is right now.

I am a Bruin fan and would like to see someone like Kreider in a Bs uniform , but not at the expense of Carlo. I don't know about your hockey IQ but young shutdown defense men do not grow on trees..........

 

[Shootertooter]

Unsure, but it would be high. A bit like McDonough in that its an asset signed through next year, so they would probably really have to wow NYR. And Tampa has the assets (and trading history, like you say) to probably get something done. But if you're in Tampa's shoes there's no sense in removing any major parts from a roster that is cruising to a top seed. They're probably looking at Simmonds for futures.

NY would be fine with taking futures as well, we could also take a contract without too much term.......but those futures would have to include Raddysh and or Foote. It is likely that you have a great shot at winning it all this year......we would already own Tampa's first in that case. It would be interesting to see what package they could come up with.


BTW...Rangers recall Lias Andersson, put Howden on IR. That puts them as 23.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Yikes.

Nylander or McAvoy?

Looks like Kreider will be a Ranger going forward.

Like I said yesterday, I thought that they didn’t want to move him.

 

[Shootertooter]

No kidding. When was the last time a team dealt both of their top 2 prospects in the same deal?

Well there is little else that the Rangers would want. Kreider is not being moved unless the deal is attractive to NY.
A late first is rather irrelevant, we don't really want a roster player unless it is a top 6 and you can't afford to part with that or Fiala.

 

[One Winged Angel]

I don’t know about that price. I think Larry’s quite off on that. I think it’s hogwash, but I think the point he’s making is accurate and has been what I’ve said all along about Kreider. I don’t see him being moved barring an overpayment.

Kreider isn’t worth Nylander or McAvoy in any world. Ranger fans know that and I’m sure Gorton knows that as well.

 

[Breakers]

ever heard of Panarin?

forgot about him
so 3rd
way better upgrade than Duchene

 

[Shootertooter]

I can't see the Rangers trading Kreider for a package that lacks an NHL player. They need some sort of buffer in there. They'll get enough futures for Hayes, McQuaid and Zucc.

The problem is that in the event they move Kreider, it would realistically be to a contending team......would a team in that situation move a top 6 roster player back? or would it be less painful to move futures? The Rangers can sign a UFA or two to field a team if they need to. I am not interested in getting another Namestnikov back. I like the guy but he clearly needs extreme talent to be productive.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Johnsson for 1.5 years of Kreider.

Simular to the JT Miller for Namestnikov deal.

 

[thethirdhockeyman91]

Johnsson for 1.5 years of Kreider.

Simular to the JT Miller for Namestnikov deal.

That’s putrid. Kreider is on pace for 33 goals, Johnsson wouldn’t hit that in the AHL

 

[barr7622]

I am a Bruin fan and would like to see someone like Kreider in a Bs uniform , but not at the expense of Carlo. I don't know about your hockey IQ but young shutdown defense men do not grow on trees..........

Looking at Carlo's metrics and micro stats I see a defenseman that is above average at limiting possession zone entries with a below average transition game and like you said no offensive game at all. He's underwater in relative corsi for % at even strength as well. Thats definitely not something that the Rangers would want in a defenseman. So personally I'm happy that the Bruins love him so much because I think it would be a dumb trade for the Rangers.

 

[Sparksrus3]

Zaitsev would have to go back the other way.

Wow , took till post 25 this thread . That's a new record

 

[Cherry Picker]

That’s putrid. Kreider is on pace for 33 goals, Johnsson wouldn’t hit that in the AHL

I terms of value I think it's close. Johnsson looks to have 30-30 potential whereas Kreider, while playing well this season, has a career high of 53 points. Both Hayes and Kreider have inflated stats as the Rangers have very little up front to work with.

 

[Cherry Picker]

Wow , took till post 25 this thread . That's a new record

Poster is just stating the obvious that with Leafs' cap; equal $$$ has to go out in any deals. If you looks at the Leafs payroll, that would mean a guy like Gardiner (UFA), Marleau (snowball's chance in hell) or Zaitsev go in the deal.

 

[Makaveli]

That’s putrid. Kreider is on pace for 33 goals, Johnsson wouldn’t hit that in the AHL

And Johnsson is on pace for 24 in his rookie year. He would also be under control for longer than Kreider. I'm not saying Rangers would do it 1 for 1, but Andreas isn't just some scrub.

 

[A1LeafNation]

That’s putrid. Kreider is on pace for 33 goals, Johnsson wouldn’t hit that in the AHL

Look at his stats lol

 

[aufheben]

I terms of value I think it's close. Johnsson looks to have 30-30 potential whereas Kreider, while playing well this season, has a career high of 53 points. Both Hayes and Kreider have inflated stats as the Rangers have very little up front to work with.

*double-take*