Non-Minnesota NHL News XV

[Bazeek]

I am an utter layman, but the impression I get from this thread is that NHL teams contribute nothing to a developing player's success and everything to their failure.

 

[2Pair]

I am an utter layman, but the impression I get from this thread is that NHL teams contribute nothing to a developing player's success and everything to their failure.

Not every NHL team, just Minnesota.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Not every NHL team, just Minnesota.

And Edmonton.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I am an utter layman, but the impression I get from this thread is that NHL teams contribute nothing to a developing player's success and everything to their failure.

This is just my own personal philosophy, but I think a lot of developing is just staying out of the players' way, and putting them in places to succeed. Obviously they're giving them off-season training programs and nutritional/diet stuff, but no amount of "development" is going to turn Eriksson Ek's hands into Patrick Kane's. But I do believe that there is something to the idea that a guy like Tuch is a different/better player right now vs. if we would've pulled him out of college after his Freshman year and stuck him on the 3rd/4th line in NHL. The 2nd college year and the AHL year absolutely were factors in the development, IMO. They aren't going to turn a 4th liner into a 1st liner, but I think they can help turn a 3rd liner into a 2nd liner. Or a good 2nd liner into a better one.

Just as current example, I think that we got in Eriksson Ek's way. Is he a bona fide 1st line center if he played all of 2017-18 in the AHL? Probably not. But think there's a reasonable chance that he's a better player than he's showing right now.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Is he a bona fide 1st line center if he played all of 2017-18 in the AHL? Probably not. But think there's a reasonable chance that he's a better player than he's showing right now.

That has been one of the pillars of my arguments. Minnesota tends to get in their way, and it's a chicken and the egg thing. They get in their way, because they don't have the depth. But they don't have the depth, because they get in their way. Something has to give eventually, but look at Donato - should he have been sent down to the AHL before his waiver exemption went away? Yes. Could they? Injuries made it difficult, but ultimately, they had some depth there that they could have sent Donato down and brought up a guy like Rau.

 

[Wild11MN]

The Blues shipped Fabbri to Detroit for de la Rose. Seems like a weird one.

 

[Bazeek]

The Blues shipped Fabbri to Detroit for de la Rose. Seems like a weird one.

My guess is a trade request from Fabbri. He wasn't going to get ice time in St Louis and they couldn't send him down without waivers. Presumably he'll get some playing time in Detroit and try to move past all the injuries.

 

[Wabit]

The Blues shipped Fabbri to Detroit for de la Rose. Seems like a weird one.

Meh, a 4th liner swap (as far as it goes for STL), de La Rose is bigger and plays a heavier game which that fits the Blues a little better.

Wings have Yzerman now and he's building on the fly. He's getting the young guys he wants and shipping out the ones he doesn't want.

 

[Wild11MN]

Yeah it's not outrageous or anything. I guess I forgot Fabbri had a second ACL tear the following year. Pretty hard to recover from that.

 

[Bazeek]

Not gonna lie, MacTavish's account of his brief KHL tenure is pretty interesting.

I’m not a tough guy and I don’t pretend to be, but my mind would wander as Yuri was critiquing me and I was waiting for the translation. I was thinking what the consequences would be if I picked up the chair beside me and broke it over the table beside him. I’d probably end up in the trunk of that black Mercedes (joking) … but I’ve had a long career in hockey and as he rambled on in Russian I smiled at the thought that this wouldn’t be a terrible way to end it.

 

[SupremeNachos]

Did he go to any of the Wild development camps? I thought due to college, he couldn't go to any of the camps?

As long as they pay their own way they can attend them.

 

[Wabit]

Looks like Coyle is in mid-season form. He still forgets he's allowed to shoot the puck: 17 total games (2g/4a, 29 shots): 12 games (0g/3a, 5 shots total), 3 games (2g/1a, 19 shots total). He was moved from center to wing last game; partially due to an injury, partially to get his o-zone game going.

 

[Bazeek]

Looks like Coyle is in mid-season form. He still forgets he's allowed to shoot the puck: 17 total games (2g/4a, 29 shots): 12 games (0g/3a, 5 shots total), 3 games (2g/1a, 19 shots total). He was moved from center to wing last game; partially due to an injury, partially to get his o-zone game going.

Nino's not exactly blowing up the Eastern Conference either: 2G 4A in 17 games and his shooting percentage is about as low as Eriksson-Ek's.

 

[TaLoN]

Looks like Coyle is in mid-season form. He still forgets he's allowed to shoot the puck: 17 total games (2g/4a, 29 shots): 12 games (0g/3a, 5 shots total), 3 games (2g/1a, 19 shots total). He was moved from center to wing last game; partially due to an injury, partially to get his o-zone game going.

So Coyle is still doing Coyle.

 

[Wild11MN]

All three of them (with Granlund) are having poor starts offensively.

 

[57special]

Bruins fans are very happy wiTh Coyle in general. Nino's struggles don't surprise me. MiG's do.

 

[TaLoN]

Don Cherry finally got himself fired... not getting into the politics of it here (there's a main board thread if you want to get into that), just thought it relevant news.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I wonder if they plan on krebs (2019 1st, 17th) getting a 9 game trial

 

[57special]

I loved Krebs. Hopefully he healed up well.

 

[TaLoN]

Avs Stadium Series Jersey leaked, and they're absolutely terrible!

 

[Engebretson]

No me gusta

 

[Bazeek]

Avs Stadium Series Jersey leaked, and they're absolutely terrible!

It looks like he tucked his napkin into his collar.

 

[Uberdachen]

I feel like those are appropriate jerseys for the Avalanche, a team I strongly dislike. I hope those are the socks, too. Like they tucked the napkin in so f***ing far their cuffed sailor pants got pulled way up. It doesn't even make sense, but yet there you sit with a self-imposed formal wedgie. Also that mountain. They obviously couldn't have just two upside-down white triangles because it would look like a cool turdpile with sunglasses, so instead they made it look like they don't know what the f*** mountains look like.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Avs Stadium Series Jersey leaked, and they're absolutely terrible!

Baby Shark do do do do!

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

I like what they were trying to do with the big A, but poor execution