Prospect Info: Noah Juulsen Part III

[Habs Halifax]

Noah got beat once or twice and people act like hes bad... he was a rookie and was our most physical defenseman, a rock in his zone, great on the transition and hes 22.

Theres a reason Ive been wanting to trade Petry for a year now. Juulsen is ready, he should be groomed as the heir to the 2nd pair so we can ease in Brook next year and most importantly, to beat the oversaturated trade market of the expansion draft.

Agreed. I recall Barzal burning him and people think Juulsen gets burned all the time because of one or two plays they saw and didn't like. Were not talking about our next Subban or Markov here. We talking about top 4D quality.

Juulsen is a good one. Average top 4D who plays a physical game and has solid mobility and puck moving skills.

 

[Miller Time]

Noah got beat once or twice and people act like hes bad... he was a rookie and was our most physical defenseman, a rock in his zone, great on the transition and hes 22.

Very interested to see how he does this year...

He has intriguing upside and could quite easily have a breakout season that completely changes the general fan narrative about him.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Very interested to see how he does this year...

He has intriguing upside and could quite easily have a breakout season that completely changes the general fan narrative about him.

The general fan gravitates towards offensive players and don't look at things that don't show up on the score sheet for the most part. Juulsen will play a boring game and will not get noticed too much but he plays physical and is a stud in his own end. Every coach he played with used him in a shutdown type role.

We won't get too much offensive from him but his puck moving skills, mobility, and shot from the point is very solid.

His true value is making you pay a physical price in our end and he has decent puck moving skills.

 

[angusyoung]

Agreed. I recall Barzal burning him and people think Juulsen gets burned all the time because of one or two plays they saw and didn't like. Were not talking about our next Subban or Markov here. We talking about top 4D quality.

Juulsen is a good one. Average top 4D who plays a physical game and has solid mobility and puck moving skills.

Petry got beat on the same plays,seen it many times.but much less as the season went along. Simple fundamentals that have to be re-conditioned at times. Their biggest flaws stems from playing the puck rather than playing the body,so easy to get sucked in to that,just takes more rehearsing. I think Richardson has been good things with the D since he signed on, glad to get JJD out of there!

 

[Mrb1p]

The general fan gravitates towards offensive players and don't look at things that don't show up on the score sheet for the most part. Juulsen will play a boring game and will not get noticed too much but he plays physical and is a stud in his own end. Every coach he played with used him in a shutdown type role.

We won't get too much offensive from him but his puck moving skills, mobility, and shot from the point is very solid.

His game isnt even boring tbh. Hes super comfortable with the puck.

 

[Habs Halifax]

His game isnt even boring tbh. Hes super comfortable with the puck.

Boring in terms of puck moving via skating with it. But yeah, I do value his overall game and I love mobile D man that and punish you in our own end.

 

[Miller Time]

The general fan gravitates towards offensive players and don't look at things that don't show up on the score sheet for the most part. Juulsen will play a boring game and will not get noticed too much but he plays physical and is a stud in his own end. Every coach he played with used him in a shutdown type role.

We won't get too much offensive from him but his puck moving skills, mobility, and shot from the point is very solid.

His true value is making you pay a physical price in our end and he has decent puck moving skills.

I don't think his offensive ceiling is as low as you seem to suggest.

He could plateau, or he could keep improving and eventually be as impactful offensively as he was in Juniors... The talent is there, question of how well he adapts to the pro game over time & how committed he is to constantly improving.

30-40+ points a year is not at all out of reach for him imo, time will tell

 

[Habs Halifax]

I don't think his offensive ceiling is as low as you seem to suggest.

He could plateau, or he could keep improving and eventually be as impactful offensively as he was in Juniors... The talent is there, question of how well he adapts to the pro game over time & how committed he is to constantly improving.

30-40+ points a year is not at all out of reach for him imo, time will tell

MEV type is his ceiling.

 

[Miller Time]

MEV type is his ceiling.

I think his ceiling is closer to Carlson or McDonagh.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I think his ceiling is closer to Carlson or McDonagh.

Possible but I have him as a reliable/mobile shutdown piece that plays physical but puts up 20-25 pts max on the back end. If he produces more than 25+, I'll be very happy

 

[Archijerej]

I like his style and still have high hopes for him, but he had atrocious stretches last season and his ice time was reduced as a result. I'm guessing #3 RD spot is his to lose.

 

[angusyoung]

I like his style and still have high hopes for him, but he had atrocious stretches last season and his ice time was reduced as a result. I'm guessing #3 RD spot is his to lose.

More like Folin's to lose.

 

[Archijerej]

More like Folin's to lose.

Nah. I think they've signed him as a #7-8. But he's a competition for Juulsen, sure.

 

[1909]

I hope they don't trade Juulsen anytime soon.

 

[phillytennis]

I hope they don't trade Juulsen anytime soon.

I hope they trade Juulsen....or he gets picked up by Seattle in the expansion draft....he doesn't have a strong hockey IQ.

 

[Habs Halifax]

More like Folin's to lose.

Not really. Why do you think so? Folin's 19 games to end the year trump Juulsen's 21 games to start the year? I think not.

Neither of team have the job locked in place. For all we know, Brook steals the job from both of them

 

[A55P2]

I hope they trade Juulsen....or he gets picked up by Seattle in the expansion draft....he doesn't have a strong hockey IQ.

Maybe offensive IQ but the guy knows when to pinch in the neutral zone like few others on the team. I wouldn't say he has low IQ. He's been on a leash too offensively, just seems he doesn't want to make mistakes out there which is alright when you're trying to become a top 6 guy.

 

[26Mats]

I hope they don't trade Juulsen anytime soon.

Judging by the fact that they drafted a ton of left D's, I'm guessing Juulsen is in the plans.

Other than Juulsen, on the right we really only have Fleury and Brook. On the left we had Romanov, Mete, and Harris. Yet they felt the need to bolster the prospect pool for the left side. But the right and left weren't that different if you were to have taken Juulsen out of the picture.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Maybe offensive IQ but the guy knows when to pinch in the neutral zone like few others on the team. I wouldn't say he has low IQ. He's been on a leash too offensively, just seems he doesn't want to make mistakes out there which is alright when you're trying to become a top 6 guy.

Another one to go through Lefebvre's show.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I think his ceiling is closer to Carlson or McDonagh.

Don't see it, Juulsen is at best an average skater. His hands and skill level are also average but his shot, physicality and intelligence are his strong points.

Carlson and McDonagh are very good skaters who can buy time and space with their feet and hands whereas Juulsen is limited in this aspect. He will have to be a dman who makes quick decisions and who doesn't keep the puck on his stick for too long if he is going to be succesful in the NHL.

I have always been a fan of his game but he is much more Craig Rivet than he is either Carlson or McDonagh. I do agree that some people are underselling his offensive upside but he will never be in consideration for a Norris or as a PP quarterback.

 

[Mrb1p]

Don't see it, Juulsen is at best an average skater. His hands and skill level are also average but his his shot, physicality and intelligence are his strong points.

Carlson and McDonagh are very good skaters who can buy time and space with their feet and hands whereas Juulsen is limited in this aspect. He will have to be a dman who makes quick decisions and who doesn't keep the puck on his stick for too long if he is going to be succesful in the NHL.

I have always been a fan of his game but he is much more Craig Rivet than he is either Carlson or McDonagh. I do agree that some people are underselling his offensive upside but he will never be in consideration for a Norris or as a PP quarterback.

I think his ceiling is closer to Weber than MCDonagh, but thats unlikely. He missed too much time.

I do like his mobility though, great edges and all. Obviously not the fastest but his edges are excellent and hes super strong on his skates.

 

[habsfan92]

I think I saw on the Hockey News that they would expect Mtl to protect Mete & make Juulsen available in the expansion draft, I would do the exact opposite.
I think Juulsen has more upside.

 

[Mrb1p]

I think I saw on the Hockey News that they would expect Mtl to protect Mete & make Juulsen available in the expansion draft, I would do the exact opposite.
I think Juulsen has more upside.

How about we protect both and trade Petry?

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I think I saw on the Hockey News that they would expect Mtl to protect Mete & make Juulsen available in the expansion draft, I would do the exact opposite.
I think Juulsen has more upside.

It is way too early to really speculate too much on this topic. Alot can happen in each players development between now and then as well as the prospects that are coming up behind them.