I like the player but I'd be very uncomfortable with Zadorov at length for anything over 4 million. We've maneuvered the cap nicely this far but all it takes is a couple sour 5 million dollar deals to ruin that.
Player Discussion Nikita Zadorov
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4x4 if he gives a discount. He probably gets 4x5 on the open market MINIMUM. Soucy he's very similar to Soucy, but Soucy signed a bargain contract.
He's an average #4 defenseman. If he's your #5 defenseman your defense is in great shape, and that IMO is his ideal role. It's a shame he isn't a RHD, he would look fantastic next to Hughes IMO.
He's an average #4 defenseman. If he's your #5 defenseman your defense is in great shape, and that IMO is his ideal role. It's a shame he isn't a RHD, he would look fantastic next to Hughes IMO.
I really liked him the first 2 games, actually haven't like him as much since then. Some questionable decisions and not finishing guys as often on the walls as I would like. Haven't seen as many of those high-end outlet passes since then. Still takes up a lot of space and is hard to get away from especially around the net, and Myers seems to have stabilized a bit playing with him. I do wonder if Bear would have been a better fit overall, but they maybe didn't have the luxury to wait for Bear.
Agree that he shouldn't get a big contract.
Agree that he shouldn't get a big contract.
His 2nd game was the NJD game which to me was his worst game by far.
I've liked every other game he's played and he's been a terrific addition so far. Really stabilized Myers again and will be interesting to see if it's Soucy or Zadorov who is paired there when Soucy returns.
Zarorov has shown more poise with the puck than I expected based on the reports of him being Myers-esque from time to time. He's got all the tools, he's not a fire drill in his own zone, and he's just hitting his prime. I hope they extend this guy.
Big Z is a perfect 'fit' with this Canuck team. He's popular in the dressing-room and will go war for his team-mates. And with 14 goals from the back-end last season, he's not totally devoid of offense.
He's a hulking presence in the D-Zone and everybody has to keep their head up when they coming over the blueline. I thought initially that the Myers-Zadorov pairing had not chance of success.
But they seem to compliment one another. And Myers is playing the best hockey of his Canuck career. Still, it all comes down to money, whether or not Zadorov is back next year. But I hope Allvin can get it done.
He's a hulking presence in the D-Zone and everybody has to keep their head up when they coming over the blueline. I thought initially that the Myers-Zadorov pairing had not chance of success.
But they seem to compliment one another. And Myers is playing the best hockey of his Canuck career. Still, it all comes down to money, whether or not Zadorov is back next year. But I hope Allvin can get it done.
There are some rumours about Zadorov not being a good fit in the locker room. I wonder if that's more of a media perspective rather than actual player perspective (like the source is someone from the media).
Zadorov comes across as a guy who will say what the media wants to hear but he also comes across as someone who is direct and doesn't BS (typical of Russians). I could see that in his mind he deserves more minutes and a contract offer. Usually these things are understandable though. Players typically want to play more and have financial security. He did apologize to the fans in Calgary for their poor play and maybe that is seen by some players and having thrown them under the bus? But regardless that's Calgary.
Zadorov comes across as a guy who will say what the media wants to hear but he also comes across as someone who is direct and doesn't BS (typical of Russians). I could see that in his mind he deserves more minutes and a contract offer. Usually these things are understandable though. Players typically want to play more and have financial security. He did apologize to the fans in Calgary for their poor play and maybe that is seen by some players and having thrown them under the bus? But regardless that's Calgary.
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He started off well, but you can see the warts in his game more apparently now. He's not a fit beyond mere insurance, IMO. And they can get an insurance depth LHD that has a much cheaper ticket.
What's more, Foote doesn't trust him. You can see it in how he gets benched/not played as much.
They should try to move him in a lateral trade for a RHD or a LW.
What's more, Foote doesn't trust him. You can see it in how he gets benched/not played as much.
They should try to move him in a lateral trade for a RHD or a LW.
He should make less than Soucy if he stays. I prefer Soucy over this player, better at pretty much everything except hitting.
The only person saying that was Don Taylor, no one backed up his claim. Most people said they have not heard that
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Don Taylor has been voted cause there ain’t no drama coming from the locker room, no leaks. So he’s pretty much making stuff up cause CLICKSZZZaz
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I can't wait to see him level people in the playoffs. One of the best open ice hitters in the league
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I really like Don Taylor, I find him witty/funny...but he's had some terrible takes lately...Right up until November, he was saying the Canucks should do a rebuild...The recent Z trade rumour as well (JR was on the show, and roasted D@D over it..'who made that up..you guys?').
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Don Taylor must be bored cause he makes up too much shit. Dhaliwal can’t stop shutting the f*** up, glad they got called out.
Also, let’s talk about these two whom seem all they want is doom and gloom. Getting sick and tired of these has beens causing too much shit for no reason.
it will be a momentum game changer in the playoffs. if he knocks out a team's top superstar could shift the series to vancouver's favour. vancouver hasnt had a hitter like that since torres but this time on defence.
I think Zadorov's MO is that there would be shifts or games where he looks really impressive out there and then there would be shifts or games where he completely disappears.
Maybe he finds a spot alongside a great defensive partner one year where he has a season where he played like a legitimate top 4 Dman. But he's probably not a plug and play top 4 Dman you can rely on to play 20 minutes on your second pairing and contend.
I think you're too harsh. Zadorov is averaging over 18 minutes a game. He's a legitimate NHL Dman who isn't as prone to being absolutely terrible as some of the other Dmen we've seen come through here. I think if there is a "top 4 insurance upgrade" out there the Canucks should look into it but a lateral trade for a RHD is likely difficult to find without paying a high price. I wouldn't give up defensive depth for a LW.
Maybe he finds a spot alongside a great defensive partner one year where he has a season where he played like a legitimate top 4 Dman. But he's probably not a plug and play top 4 Dman you can rely on to play 20 minutes on your second pairing and contend.
I think you're too harsh. Zadorov is averaging over 18 minutes a game. He's a legitimate NHL Dman who isn't as prone to being absolutely terrible as some of the other Dmen we've seen come through here. I think if there is a "top 4 insurance upgrade" out there the Canucks should look into it but a lateral trade for a RHD is likely difficult to find without paying a high price. I wouldn't give up defensive depth for a LW.
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Foote uses him the same way he uses every defenceman not named Hrnoek or Hughes
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That benching after the Blues scored on their PP suggested otherwise. Maybe something like that has happened to Juulsen? (iirc)
If DeBrusk can be had, they should pack Zadarov's bags. Vatrano would be a tough call.
The lateral trade assumes that something of value will be coming back for Zadarov first, that they can then peddle for Walker/other RHD.
Zadarov averages 17:46 TOI/GP, 5th among Canucks Dmen. That's 142nd for TOI/GP, and the top4 cut off is 128th. He's a #5 dman that is more luxury than necessity. They need a RHD hedge against Myers.
Whoa I don’t know what happened there. I did not mean to say he is a legitimate top 4 Dman. He is not. I think defensive depth is a necessity.
Myers, Cole, Soucy and even Hughes has been benched at times. I think the only one that has not been benched is Hronek. The coaching staff is pretty fair when it comes to benching players when they aren't playing that well in any particular game. It's silly to try to infer trust from that unless you see a Kuzmenko like treatment where they are sent to the pressbox for multiple games.
A huge bounce-back effort for Zadorov in Carolina tonight. The guy is simply a beast in his own zone. For forechecking forwards, it's like hitting a cement-mixer when you run into him.
He's going to be a big factor for the Canucks in the playoffs.
He did play the least in toi last night vs the cane's, but having said that, he's exactly the type of body you want back there in a playoff series. You need those warriors punishing players in the corners, in front of the net, and after whistle bs, when the refs don't call shit. This is historically a factor, and we felt it vs the bruins.
The team needs rhd, but I don't think you sacrifice it while losing depth. If there's a play to add, the back end is not where I'd subtract from, because if the moment arises that some injuries hit, I'd hate to be running juulson in a top 4 spot.
Reminder of the fact that after losing hamhuis in the finals, that Aaron Rome suspension really ended that back end hard. And we are talking about Aaron Rome. You can never have too many dmen when it comes down to it.
The team needs rhd, but I don't think you sacrifice it while losing depth. If there's a play to add, the back end is not where I'd subtract from, because if the moment arises that some injuries hit, I'd hate to be running juulson in a top 4 spot.
Reminder of the fact that after losing hamhuis in the finals, that Aaron Rome suspension really ended that back end hard. And we are talking about Aaron Rome. You can never have too many dmen when it comes down to it.
If we can resign Zadorov at a reasonable price I'd love to keep him. I think he's actually played really well for us. Keep in mind that he's having to play with Myers and seems to have been able to help Myers not make as many mistakes by constantly giving him an out to pass to if in trouble, and also when Myers does make a mistake, Zadorov has been great at covering for him. Would love to go into next season with Hughers/Hronek/Soucy/Zadorov as a core on our D and maybe add a Tanev as well.
I would love to see what a pairing of Zadorov/Tanev would be like. With Tanev there instead of Myers, we might be able to see Zadorov open up a bit offensively knowing that he doesn't have someone like Myers to cover for all the time.
I would love to see what a pairing of Zadorov/Tanev would be like. With Tanev there instead of Myers, we might be able to see Zadorov open up a bit offensively knowing that he doesn't have someone like Myers to cover for all the time.
