News from Around the AHL/NHL/KHL 2018-19

[thedonger]

Seems Greiss is trying to get back on track by hiring a specialist to help him (again).

31 Thoughts: Team owners played key role in Erik Karlsson trade - Sportsnet.ca

I remember there was some sort of quote or comment that he decided to go back to Francilla at the end of last season after parting ways at the end of the season prior.

found a link:
New York Islanders Daily: Thomas Greiss Returns to Old Goalie Coach

 

[13th Floor]

Ah another fantastic play from Tom Wilson who just plays "hard nose hockey".



Remember when Wilson met with DOPS this summer to figure out how to hit without getting suspended? That lasted long. Not to mention, it's f***ing preseason. This fool is dangerous and should be suspended for a long time but we all know he won't.

 

[PWJunior]

Ah another fantastic play from Tom Wilson who just plays "hard nose hockey".



Remember when Wilson met with DOPS this summer to figure out how to hit without getting suspended? That lasted long. Not to mention, it's ****ing preseason. This fool is dangerous and should be suspended for a long time but we all know he won't.

Wait until Hickey kicks his ass the next time we play...

This guy is reckless and will eventually suspend himself out of the league.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Ah another fantastic play from Tom Wilson who just plays "hard nose hockey".



Remember when Wilson met with DOPS this summer to figure out how to hit without getting suspended? That lasted long. Not to mention, it's ****ing preseason. This fool is dangerous and should be suspended for a long time but we all know he won't.

The problem is, the DoPS keeps letting him off easy, so they can never ding him as a repeat offender. It's a self-fulfilling prophesy.

DoPS: "He only got a fine last time, so technically this is his first offense so we could only suspend him 1 game without priors".

Well, yeah. How about when he does something, actually suspend him so that when he re-offends (which he will) the escalation will be in effect?

 

[SI90]

Wilson is such a POS

 

[sabremike]

Ross the Boss caving his face in would be the most perfect and beautiful thing in the entire world.

 

[SI90]

 

[doublechili]

It's apparently kinda hard for the DoPS to explain something to a DoPE.

 

[Lame Lambert]

Staple makes it so obvious that he can’t stand Wilson

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

It's apparently kinda hard for the DoPS to explain something to a DoPE.

This is why I place the blame on the DoPS. If Wilson's not getting the message through discussion, they should, you know, suspend him? And not a slap on the wrist. If they dish out a 30+ game suspension, it doesn't matter whether Wilson gets it or not.

Obviously not quite the same thing, but it would be like if someone continually robbed stores and all he got was a stiff talking to from the police about not doing it again, no matter how many times he does it.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Does he even hit him in the head? It looks shoulder to shoulder to me.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Ross the Boss caving his face in would be the most perfect and beautiful thing in the entire world.

For some reason, the refs don't wanna let that happen...

 

[Bronson]

Maybe the league wants the drama? I recall Cooke not being properly suspended because his headhunting created a lot of drama and interest. Like some goddamn Nikolai Volkoff.

 

[LeapOnOver]

I like the tattoo more than the mascot:

Lifelong Flyers fan gets Gritty tattoo, may have started trend

 

[saintunspecified]

Does he even hit him in the head? It looks shoulder to shoulder to me.

The league needs to make a decision about whether they want to allow blindside hits like these when they're *not* to the head. Seems to me that the shock of these hits go to the head even if they're not to the head directly.

It's hard to make a judgment just seeing that little bit, because I can't tell how Wilson strides in off frame. But assuming that it's not charging, it looks like a legal hit given current rules.

And it has to be said, telegraphing a cut to the middle like that isn't advisable.

 

[seafoam]

Does he even hit him in the head? It looks shoulder to shoulder to me.

From the clip posted it does look like the point of contact is the shoulder. It’s still a defenseless hit however, which I think are the bigger of the two issues with all of these Wilson hits.

 

[danteipp]

Does he even hit him in the head? It looks shoulder to shoulder to me.

It is hard to tell from just that clip, presumably there are better angles available for a more detailed look, but I will add that it appears Wilson purposely brought his left shoulder up to catch Sundqvist in the head.

After Sunqvist gets up, he has facial lacerations, probably from the shield being driven into his cheek.

I did manage to capture the following snippet (hopefully I can add this correctly), which looks like Wilson is raising and driving his shoulder into the opposing player:

 

[saintunspecified]

From the clip posted it does look like the point of contact is the shoulder. It’s still a defenseless hit however, which I think are the bigger of the two issues with all of these Wilson hits.

But is that even an issue wrt the league's current rules? I don't think so.

This is the thing: is the NHL going to change its rules because of Tom Wilson? Pro: If it doesn't there are going to be more Tom Wilsons, and more intent-to-injure hits. Con: It will limit physical play from all players.

But the @danteipp screenshot looks pretty clear that it is a head shot. In that case, the league could at the very least use the opportunity to send a message.

 

[seafoam]

But is that even an issue wrt the league's current rules? I don't think so.

This is the thing: is the NHL going to change its rules because of Tom Wilson? Pro: If it doesn't there are going to be more Tom Wilsons, and more intent-to-injure hits. Con: It will limit physical play from all players.

I don’t read the league rulebook in my spare time. I just assumed there was protection in place for defenseless players.

 

[saintunspecified]

I don’t read the league rulebook in my spare time. I just assumed there was protection in place for defenseless players.

Sorry lol.

My understanding: blindside hits to the head were initially banned, but that blindside rule got deleted in favor of a ban of all hits to the head. I don't believe there is any rule about blindside hits.

 

[seafoam]

Sorry lol.

My understanding: blindside hits to the head were initially banned, but that blindside rule got deleted in favor of a ban of all hits to the head. I don't believe there is any rule about blindside hits.

Gotcha. If that’s the case, then I don’t expect his act to end anytime soon.

In my opinion, he’s able to hit with so much force and catch opposing players off gaurd to the point where he doesn’t need to make contact with the head to seriously injure an opposing player.

 

[IslesNorway]

If he NHL are serious about avoiding head injuries and concussions they need to take proper action, especially against repeat offenders like Wilson.
Physical play and dangerous play aren't mutually exclusive so taking a hard stance on this does not limit the physical aspect of the game for those who are afraid of that. Give the guy a 25 game ban for now, tell him he will miss a full season unless he stops and fine him until it hurts. By all means, fine the team for not making sure their players behave!

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

I did manage to capture the following snippet (hopefully I can add this correctly), which looks like Wilson is raising and driving his shoulder into the opposing player:

Problem with the stop frame is that it can simply catch the overlap/follow-through because the player twists when hit and it misleads you about the point of contact. Actually, because the player's body twists like that on impact, it seems more likely that the point of contact is the shoulder, because it's difficult for the body to accept enough force to the head to twist the body almost 360 degrees. It's obviously a small, low-rez clip, but watching it a few more times, I don't see a direct targeting of the head. Problem is, like dano mentioned, blindside hits of that nature create a lot of force that drives through the neck and head, regardless of the point of contact.

 

[SI90]

Not surprising. Should have been Subban though. Stupid trade from MTL perspective

 

[Glory Days]

The Carolina Hurricanes Unveiled Hartford Whaler Throwback Jerseys And Not Everyone Is Thrilled

Canes will be wearing Whalers throwback jerseys for a couple of games this year. Pretty cool idea.