News Article: News and Note XXVII: Bunch of Jerks

[emptyNedder]

This has turned into a bit of a salary discussion. The Canes are going to be up about 10M next year (an extra 7 for Aho and 3 for TT). So Ferland at 5 would be an extra 3. Martinook would be an extra 1. If either goalie is re-signed that is 1.5. Williams is looking better, so he might re-sign for 1.5 less.

So the team could easily be $14M more for the same lineup. If Dundon doesn't want to have a $75M payroll, then Ferland appears to be the odd man.

 

[Lurk Muller]

Please don't overpay players on long term deals for the sake of keeping them. I'd rather tank than be tied to mediocrity by having players like Staal and Rask on the roster forever. That is how you end up with 8th overall picks.

Let the next GM try to fix it with as few bad contracts to deal with as possible.

 

[robbieberns]

I can’t understand letting Ferland walk, when it leaves you with 4 AHL wingers on the left hand side. We need another top 6 LW on top of Ferland, more than any other position imo.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

A lot of you were 100% on board with giving Tuevo 6m+ to keep him. And are perfectly ok with getting a draft pick for Ferland? You've got to be f***ing kidding me. If Waddell and Dundon screw this up, I hope to hell he moves this f***ing team somewhere else in 6 years. Please.

Ferland is a power forward unlike any this team has had in 10+ years. He's plenty capable of being a consistent 20+ goal scorer for years to come. There's absolutely zero reason to think otherwise. Unless you're buying into the "bury him on the 3rd or 4th line, get his production down, and lowball him" idea.

 

[Unsustainable]

 

[zman77]

 

[Penaltykiller17]

A lot of you were 100% on board with giving Tuevo 6m+ to keep him. And are perfectly ok with getting a draft pick for Ferland? You've got to be ****ing kidding me. If Waddell and Dundon screw this up, I hope to hell he moves this ****ing team somewhere else in 6 years. Please.

Ferland is a power forward unlike any this team has had in 10+ years. He's plenty capable of being a consistent 20+ goal scorer for years to come. There's absolutely zero reason to think otherwise. Unless you're buying into the "bury him on the 3rd or 4th line, get his production down, and lowball him" idea.

The power forward position generally ages out. We don’t know what the contract negotiations are like, but we can’t afford to be overpaying the wrong people as we already have several bad long-term contracts. One could bring up Lucic and our own Jordan Staal as power forwards that are vastly underperforming expectations, and will be making $6 million+ per year well into their 30’s.

 

[Unsustainable]

The power forward position generally ages out. We don’t know what the contract negotiations are like, but we can’t afford to be overpaying the wrong people as we already have several bad long-term contracts. One could bring up Lucic and our own Jordan Staal as power forwards that are vastly underperforming expectations, and will be making $6 million+ per year well into their 30’s.

That’s what I would worry about. And I would insure the hell out of that contract

 

[CandyCanes]

A lot of you were 100% on board with giving Tuevo 6m+ to keep him. And are perfectly ok with getting a draft pick for Ferland? You've got to be ****ing kidding me. If Waddell and Dundon screw this up, I hope to hell he moves this ****ing team somewhere else in 6 years. Please.

Ferland is a power forward unlike any this team has had in 10+ years. He's plenty capable of being a consistent 20+ goal scorer for years to come. There's absolutely zero reason to think otherwise. Unless you're buying into the "bury him on the 3rd or 4th line, get his production down, and lowball him" idea.

I think a lot of people are afraid of his concussion history. And generally players of his type don’t age well.

If you need an example just look at how Tuomo Ruutu aged. By the time he was 29 he just wasn’t an effective hockey player anymore. Eventually retired by the age of 32.

That said, I sure hope they do their best to lock him up on a reasonable contract. As he should definitely have a few years left of solid hockey if he can avoid the concussions.

 

[Joe McGrath]

A lot of you were 100% on board with giving Tuevo 6m+ to keep him. And are perfectly ok with getting a draft pick for Ferland? You've got to be ****ing kidding me. If Waddell and Dundon screw this up, I hope to hell he moves this ****ing team somewhere else in 6 years. Please.

Ferland is a power forward unlike any this team has had in 10+ years. He's plenty capable of being a consistent 20+ goal scorer for years to come. There's absolutely zero reason to think otherwise. Unless you're buying into the "bury him on the 3rd or 4th line, get his production down, and lowball him" idea.

Or maybe you’re worried power forwards fall off a cliff when they hit 30, especially when they’ve had several concussions in the last 2 years.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

3 year deal? Yes. 4 year deal? Maaaaybe. More than that, nah.

I think he's worth paying short term. But it's all about term. Canes need to offer less of it to most guys, until we find a group that can make the f***ing playoffs.

 

[Unsustainable]

For Ferland, 4yx5m is max I would go

 

[Unsustainable]

70M cap hit.

Can sub around the bottom, but I didn’t feel like res-signing everyone.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I see a Slavin-Hamilton pairing. Instant dislike.

 

[Unsustainable]

I see a Slavin-Hamilton pairing. Instant dislike.

It did it, not me

 

[SvechneJerk]

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70M cap hit.

Can sub around the bottom, but I didn’t feel like res-signing everyone.

Isn't that a bit steep for McElhinney? Shouldn't around $1M or slightly over do it?

 

[Unsustainable]

Isn't that a bit steep for McElhinney? Shouldn't around $1M or slightly over do it?

I was being generous for him. 1 year 2m thank you deal.

 

[SvechneJerk]

I was being generous for him. 1 year 2m thank you deal.

I see - carry on.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

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70M cap hit.

Can sub around the bottom, but I didn’t feel like res-signing everyone.

Faulk and Fleury are absent with no new additions?

 

[TheBigKahuna]

You're ok paying Martinook 3m, but 5m for Ferland is too much?

What has following this team done to you people?

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

You're ok paying Martinook 3m, but 5m for Ferland is too much?

What has following this team done to you people?

One person posts their roster and it’s “you people”

 

[Canes]

Dump Staal and Rask, give 8m to Duchene.

Aho - Duchene - Necas - Wallmark

To sign a guy like Duchene here who will be looking to go to every other market before the Canes, we'll have to make Skinner look affordable. We're talking 10 million dollar per year average to start. More per year if we want to sign him here.

 

[SaskCanesFan]

Dump Staal and Rask, give 8m to Duchene.

Aho - Duchene - Necas - Wallmark

I'd be absolutely thrilled with that, but as hitchhiker pointed out, that $10m is likely going to raises for Aho and Turbo. So I have zero faith in management to not cheap out and also throw money at Duchene

 

[DougieSmash]

Had a dream last night that we acquire somehow Couturier, Drouin and Silfverberg. That was nice. I mean, we could use them right now.

 

[Canes]

A lot of you were 100% on board with giving Tuevo 6m+ to keep him. And are perfectly ok with getting a draft pick for Ferland? You've got to be ****ing kidding me. If Waddell and Dundon screw this up, I hope to hell he moves this ****ing team somewhere else in 6 years. Please.

Ferland is a power forward unlike any this team has had in 10+ years. He's plenty capable of being a consistent 20+ goal scorer for years to come. There's absolutely zero reason to think otherwise. Unless you're buying into the "bury him on the 3rd or 4th line, get his production down, and lowball him" idea.

Teravainen is not that good, yes. But he's better than most Canes forwards not named Aho, so we're f***ed. Especially with Waddell.