Kranix
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Of course, and by the time Kadri is showing his mid 30s decline, the entire team will have turned over. Who knows what the landscape will be.
Confirmed with Link: Nazem Kadri signs with the Flames (7 years, $7M AAV)
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Dack
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After 4 years the buyout on this contract would be
2.2222 x 6.
By 2026 with cap increases that's basically nothing. If you get 3 good years out of this contract it's worth it IMO.
2.2222 x 6.
By 2026 with cap increases that's basically nothing. If you get 3 good years out of this contract it's worth it IMO.
Johnny Hoxville
The Return of a Legend
The one thing I love about Naz, is that he’s an elite defensive C. So when his production starts to drop, he will still be a good player like Backs.
Johnny Hoxville
The Return of a Legend
We are absolutely a better team. We essentially swapped Johnny for Jonathan. Tkachuk for a 1B Centre. And we added a top pairing dman in Weegar.
Go back and watch this team in the playoffs. We had struggled mightily shutting down the other teams best players. Our D was an utter mess against the Oilers and our forwards couldn’t keep up either. This team is much more balanced to win today than it was was the season ended.
The problem is not only that, but the flames also paid a first to sign this contract. It’s just more short term patches for long term pain.
Seriously look at his production in the previous half decade before this season, it’s not all that much better than backlund’s. Unless Kadri is putting up 60+ pts for the first few seasons of this contract (which before this season he hasn’t done since 2017), this is terrible already.
OvermanKingGainer
#BennettFreed #CurseofTheSpulll #FreeOliver
buyouts are worst case scenario. Ideallly Kadri and Huberdeau ride out their deals even if we are a bad team, and we rebuild with their expiring contracts as the beginning of the next core cycle
This team will be so hard to play against and scoring goals will be an absolute grind. Lindholm - Kadri - Backlund down the middle is incredibly difficult to match up against. Throw in two pairs that are some combo of Weegar/Tanev/Andersson/Hanafin, Markstrom in net, and a Sutter system? That shit gets me excited
If being a legit contender in the West is your aim...you're there. I think its a good move at taking a shot at it. Yes, down the line you may have some WTH were we thinking moments but that is the chance you take. GMBT has made the Flames beyond interesting.
Pelletier and Coronato will be NHLers, it just the quality that is in question but both seemingly have the floors of offensively productive middle 6ers. Zary has question marks for sure. Wolf was already the best goalie in the AHL his first season, of course we have no clue how good he will be in the NHL but he would already be a backup without Vladar blocking the way. Valimaki and Mackey are already NHL ready and have proven it on multiple occasions, they are also just being blocked by depth. The other two defenders very much could not even be AHL quality defenders but they both have great toolboxes.
I didn’t say we have a bunch of studs coming up, but I did suggest that we probably are ok signing large contracts and trading 1sts because realistically we have two forwards, two defenseman, and a goalie all ready for playing time in the NHL currently or in a year on entry level/cheap deals.
Yes, if we win a cup all sins are absolved.
I’ve been told since 2015-16 it’s time to go all in. We’ve made it past the first round once in that time, let’s see if it’s different this time
Johnny Hoxville
The Return of a Legend
100%. This roster, playing Sutter hockey is going to pain for the West. The only teams that concern me are Colorado and Edmonton. But I like how we match against those teams today, better than we did 6 weeks ago.
perronist
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Honestly another Backlund on the Flames is not a bad thing. He was their best skater against Edmonton and they probably would have won a few more rounds if they had another Backlund instead of Monahan since 2015.
Also Kadri 100% has that dawg in him, which you can't say about most Flames roster players over the Gaudreau era
Ace Rimmer
Stoke me a clipper.
At least the conditions around that first round pick should pretty much prevent the Flames from trading another first round pick between 2024 and 2026.
The long term pain is called a rebuild and yeah, that's gonna happen.
Just have to go fully all-in and solidify the top six with another scoring forward. Whether that's trade or promotion from within (Pelletier, Phillips) is to be determined.
Ace Rimmer
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I agree. Huberdeau and Weegar are definitely better looking than Gaudreau and Tkachuk. Kadri isn't much to look at without the beard but with it.. a different story.
However we did lose a lot of handsomeness when Monahan left.
BRobMint
Formerly known as Hockey Ninja
We lost a lot of handsomeness losing Gubby too. But we still have Lindy and Shilly to pick up the slack
Unlimited Chequing
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I think it's pretty obvious Conroy was the architect behind the handsome boy exodus.
TheHudlinator
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Only one way to find out but considering Tkachuk was Mia yet again in the playoffs and the defense fell apart its hard for me to see us being worse in the short term
I definitely think Kadri deserved more than his last contract gave him so good for him. That said this move makes me really nervous. Naz had a career year last year. He has a suspension record. I dunno. I don't know if I've ever been more on the fence about a signing. I think he's a better 2C than Backlund, but that's not saying much. Wish it were possible to get what Kadri brings on a contract from say 2 years ago in that 5 to 6 per over 5 years. I think Naz takes care of his body well, but I think there's a lot of risk with this. Anyway, as usual hope I'm wrong with my dash of pessimism.
I hope this all works out!
I hope this all works out!
Definitely not a better team than last year but probably not a worst team either.
i don't see this team having any more chance at winning a Cup than we did last year or had we kept Gaudreau and Tkachuk. We are still way behind the Avs, behind the Blues in terms of quality. Right in a mix with Edmonton and LV where I could see any of the 3 winning the division in the regular season and getting out of the division to lose to the Central champs in the WCF.
Of course when people say if we win the Cup who cares, but the chances are so small and rely on so much luck for me throwing away the future wasn't really worth it, but as I have said I don't think we had a choice because the owners value money over winning.
i don't see this team having any more chance at winning a Cup than we did last year or had we kept Gaudreau and Tkachuk. We are still way behind the Avs, behind the Blues in terms of quality. Right in a mix with Edmonton and LV where I could see any of the 3 winning the division in the regular season and getting out of the division to lose to the Central champs in the WCF.
Of course when people say if we win the Cup who cares, but the chances are so small and rely on so much luck for me throwing away the future wasn't really worth it, but as I have said I don't think we had a choice because the owners value money over winning.
