Nathan MacKinnon and Cale Makar Vs Jack Eichel and Rasmus Dahlin going forward?

[Spilot23]

I await the seasons start and Makar’s historic season to match Dahlins...ohwait

Well that is no reason to compare him to freaking Del Zotto. Dahlin is clearly the superior player here but the way you're trying to compare them you would think that Makar is just some AHLer compared to Mcjesus.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Well that is no reason to compare him to freaking Del Zotto. Dahlin is clearly the superior player here but the way you're trying to compare them you would think that Makar is just some AHLer compared to Mcjesus.

Compared to Dahlin he may as well be an AHLer

Makar will have two worse years after starting later whereas Eichel has had a better three year start than MacKinnon

 

[Spilot23]

Compared to Dahlin he may as well be an AHLer

Makar will have two worse years after starting later whereas Eichel has had a better three year start than MacKinnon

I guess that's what people told Kucherov when he had a disappointing first season compared to Mackinnon when Kuch was two years older. He may as well be an AHLer and won't have a chance of being as good as Mackinnon. That's the thing called : Development isn't linear. Somehow because Makar played in a weaker league while Dahlin was getting a "historical season" doesn't mean that he has no chance to get at least close to Dahlin's level.

 

[cgf]

Compared to Dahlin he may as well be an AHLer

Makar will have two worse years after starting later whereas Eichel has had a better three year start than MacKinnon

You're still going?

Try re-reading my posts right after you scolded me for not reading your posts; maybe then you'll see why your misdirected hissy fit is so funny.

 

[Mac2Rants]

Compared to Dahlin he may as well be an AHLer

Makar will have two worse years after starting later whereas Eichel has had a better three year start than MacKinnon

Lawl God,to bad we dropped in '17 draft.... Would love an alternate universe where you guys had Makar I don't want a Del Zotto I want a 50-55 Pt C

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Dude is clearly just starting his dislike for Colorado early on for when we steal Taylor Hall from the Devils in the next year.

 

[SotasicA]

Obviously the Buffalo pair is more desireable. And I'm a big MacK fan.

 

[EdAVSfan]

I think my favourite HF argument is when people used stats from seasons where a player is clearly not the same player.

Like Mackinnons 51 point season.

Like who gives a flying F what he did then when that’s no longer who he is now?

 

[Tage2Tuch]

I see the irony in people using Cale Makar’s young age and VERY SMALL sample size as a reason to claim he is closer to Dahlin than Eichel is to MacKinnon - you know the guy Jack Eichel who has actually proven himself scoring at a career .90+ ppg pace and started off his career much better than Nathan did.

But sure, Makar’s playoff games and all that jazz

BOOM.

Awesome post.

 

[the_fan]

This poll proves Cale Makar may be one of the most overrated players in the league - and he hasnt even played a regular season game

Or he could have a 50 point rookie season and outperform Dahlin's rookie year, you'll never know, but if Makar does that, people would still look for excuses by saying Makar played on a better team and whatnot

 

[cgf]

Or he could have a 50 point rookie season and outperform Dahlin's rookie year, you'll never know, but if Makar does that, people would still look for excuses by saying Makar played on a better team and whatnot

How would future events change present circumstances?

 

[Snippit]

Or he could have a 50 point rookie season and outperform Dahlin's rookie year, you'll never know, but if Makar does that, people would still look for excuses by saying Makar played on a better team and whatnot

Even if he did that, it would be in his D+3 year so it would still be less impressive than D+1

 

[the_fan]

How would future events change present circumstances?

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Do people realize only one year separates Mackinnon and Eichel?

Why are people comparing their early years so much. Mackinnon played his first full season at 18 while Eichel did it at 19. Wouldn’t it make more sense to compare their recent years as its relative to today’s NHL. What do 18 and 19 year old seasons have to do with these two as they approach their mid 20’s?

Nathan Mackinnon is one year older than Jack Eichel. If everybody is so certain that Eichel is going to continue to get better, why can’t Mackinnon?

Eichel had 82 points in 77 games last year as a 22 year old. Mackinnon scored 97 points in 74 games at that age.

Mackinnon also reached the 97 points in a year where scoring wasn't quite as high as it was last year. He has also been the playoffs twice in his career, and even won a round.

 

[cgf]

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[Avsavsavsavsavs]

I'm not going to say Mackinnon is criminally underrated in this thread because everyone has seen Mackinnon play and the highlight reel goals and the numbers. Mackinnon played a different game to me last season, he was significantly better defensively than he had ever been, the drive to compete on both ends of the ice was finally there and looking forward it's something that I think keeps him a step ahead of Eichel for his career when you combine all of his tools. Mackinnon with a 2nd line behind him and some of the pressure off is going to be a different beast.

I will agree that Dahlin is beyond elite, but Mackinnon and Makar are proven big game performers and I'll take that duo at the end of the day.

 

[Mrb1p]

Mackinnon is the third best player in the league and I dont care about the rest.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Apparently games played is the new barometer if a guy is good or not.

It’s as asinine as having 15+ more 5v5 points than Nico Hischier to be considered a top 20 center.

 

[Leafsrock95]

It’s obviously jack and dahlin.

Jack is not far off Mack if anything just as good/better. Dahlin blows Makar out of the water. Easy decision.

 

[the_fan]

I think my favourite HF argument is when people used stats from seasons where a player is clearly not the same player.

Like Mackinnons 51 point season.

Like who gives a flying F what he did then when that’s no longer who he is now?

Because you either have to start and end your NHL career with PPG+ or bust. So the only true star players in this league are Crosby, Ovechkin and McDavid

 

[Cousin Eddie]

It’s obviously jack and dahlin.

Jack is not far off Mack if anything just as good/better. Dahlin blows Makar out of the water. Easy decision.

I just read a post where somebody called Jack Eichel better than Nathan Mackinnon. I’ve seen it all.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Or he could have a 50 point rookie season and outperform Dahlin's rookie year, you'll never know, but if Makar does that, people would still look for excuses by saying Makar played on a better team and whatnot

Yeah Dahlin just had arguably the greatest rookie season all time for a defenseman. At 18. Let’s pump the Makar breaks a little bit.

 

[the_fan]

Yeah Dahlin just had arguably the greatest rookie season all time for a defenseman. At 18. Let’s pump the Makar breaks a little bit.

Yeah I didn't factor in age

 

[bsu]

The gap between Mack and Jack will be far greater than the gap between Rasmus and Cale.

Sike

 

[ijuka]

Makar's got a lot to prove for him to rival Dahlin. MacKinnon gets to play with Rantanen. I think this is Sabres.