Proposal: Nate McKinnon for Auston Matthews

[Cousin Eddie]

Nathan Mackinnon’s rookie season: 73 points in 89 games including playoffs.

Auston Matthews rookie season: 74 points in 88 games including playoffs.

Can everyone please stop acting like Matthews rookie season was so much better than Mackinnons. They’re almost identical except Matthews played his full rookie season at 19 years old while Mackinnon did it at 18.

 

[The Assclown]

Nathan Mackinnon’s rookie season: 73 points in 89 games including playoffs.

Auston Matthews rookie season: 74 points in 88 games including playoffs.

Can everyone please stop acting like Matthews rookie season was so much better than Mackinnons. They’re almost identical except Matthews played his full rookie season at 19 years old while Mackinnon did it at 18.

Okay. Now why don’t you include goals?

Matthews scored 40. Much, much more impressive than Mack’s rookie year.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Okay. Now why don’t you include goals?

Matthews scored 40. Much, much more impressive than Mack’s rookie year.

I did include goals. Points include goals. They also include assists.

Their rookie seasons are pretty much identical production wise but Mackinnon did it a full year younger.

 

[The Assclown]

I did include goals. Points include goals. They also include assists.

Their rookie seasons are pretty much identical production wise but Mackinnon did it a full year younger.

No, you clearly didn’t include goals. If you did, your post would be nonsensical.

 

[Echo Roku]

AKA, the stat Matthews is best in is now arbitrarily the most important part of comparing them because reasons

 

[Jyrki Lumme]

Nathan Mackinnon’s rookie season: 73 points in 89 games including playoffs.

Auston Matthews rookie season: 74 points in 88 games including playoffs.

Can everyone please stop acting like Matthews rookie season was so much better than Mackinnons. They’re almost identical except Matthews played his full rookie season at 19 years old while Mackinnon did it at 18.

Am I allowed to talk about their 2nd seasons?

How about I use MacKinnon's 3rd season to compare against Matthews' 2nd, since they were the same age. That should make you happy, right?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

No, you clearly didn’t include goals. If you did, your post would be nonsensical.

I clearly did include goals.

If I said somebody had 100 PIM’s would you argue that I didn’t include fighting majors?

Points include goals. (mod)

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Id take Matthews over MacKinnon pretty easily

MacKinnon could end up better but I doubt it

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Am I allowed to talk about their 2nd seasons?

How about I use MacKinnon's 3rd season to compare against Matthews' 2nd, since they were the same age. That should make you happy, right?

You can compare whatever you want. I’m just talking about all the clowns saying It took Mackinnon 5 years to be able to do what Matthews did as a rookie when in fact Mackinnon did what Matthews did as a rookie a full year younger than Matthews.

 

[tucker3434]

I find it hilarious people keep saying Mackinnon's contract is so good. You realize the reason his contract is good is because he'll be a UFA earlier right? I'd easily rather have Matthews for 9 years than Mackinnon for 5 years and then face the unknowns of UFA status. Almost double the amount of time. The problem with getting no results for your first 5 seasons, the length of your contract shortens when you start showing value. Leafs will have Matthews locked in for 9 years and it gives them a much much greater cup window.

Now you’re really reaching. Trying to somehow turn MacKinnon’s contact into a negative is ridiculous. It’s one of the very best contracts in the entire league.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

You can compare whatever you want. I’m just talking about all the clowns saying It took Mackinnon 5 years to be able to do what Matthews did as a rookie when in fact Mackinnon did what Matthews did as a rookie a full year younger than Matthews.

when did MacKinnon score 40 goals?

 

[The Assclown]

I clearly did include goals.

If I said somebody had 100 PIM’s would you argue that I didn’t include fighting majors?

Points include goals. Don’t be an idiot.

Show me where you said Matthews scored 40 goals. That is a heck of a better accomplishment than 23.

 

[LoovTrain]

Nathan Mackinnon’s rookie season: 73 points in 89 games including playoffs.

Auston Matthews rookie season: 74 points in 88 games including playoffs.

Can everyone please stop acting like Matthews rookie season was so much better than Mackinnons. They’re almost identical except Matthews played his full rookie season at 19 years old while Mackinnon did it at 18.

Okay... let’s do it by age then...

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AM @19 82GP 40G 29A 69P

Or... we could do it by draft year...

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AM D+2 62GP 34G 29A 63P

 

[Cousin Eddie]

[MOD]
And Mackinnon’s 47 assists are a much better accomplishment than Matthews 30.

Points. I said points. Which include both.

 

[KPower]

And Mackinnon’s 47 assists are a much better accomplishment than Matthews 30.

Points. I said points. Which include both.

Quit while you’re way behind Eddie.

 

[Echo Roku]

Quit while you’re way behind Eddie.

He's not.

 

[Trapper]

This thread still going on?
It’s a scratch and sniff thread. From the moment I clicked in here something smelled fishy.
In the future OP, could you use Buffalo or another team to get your internet jollies. Thanks.

 

[Puckstuff]

The reason that Mackinnon has such a good contract; is because he had a lot of bad years... Matthews way more dominant after 2 years AINEC

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Okay... let’s do it by age then...

NM @19 64GP 14G 24A 38P
AM @19 82GP 40G 29A 69P

Or... we could do it by draft year...

NM D+2 64GP 14G 24A 38P
AM D+2 62GP 34G 29A 63P

What are you even arguing?

I’m well aware of their seasons. Auston Matthews 2 seasons have been incredible. Much better than any of Mackinnon’s other than the first and most recent.

I’m not arguing they’ve been comparable their entire careers. I’m simply responding to those who continuously say it took Mackinnon 5 years to ever have a season as good as Matthews since that is simply incorrect. They both had near identical rookie seasons.

That doesn’t mean Mackinnon is better now, was better through his first few seasons or will be better long term. It means it didn’t take him 5 years to match any of Matthews first two seasons. He did it the first year he was in the league. I only mentioned the 18 year old thing to show just how impressive Mackinnon’s rookie year was which for some reason seems to be unforgotton on here.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Okay... let’s do it by age then...

NM @19 64GP 14G 24A 38P
AM @19 82GP 40G 29A 69P

Or... we could do it by draft year...

NM D+2 64GP 14G 24A 38P
AM D+2 62GP 34G 29A 63P

What are you even arguing?

I’m well aware of their seasons. Auston Matthews 2 seasons have been incredible. Much better than any of Mackinnon’s other than the first and most recent.

I’m not arguing they’ve been comparable their entire careers. I’m simply responding to those who continuously say it took Mackinnon 5 years to ever have a season as good as Matthews since that is simply incorrect. They both had near identical rookie seasons.

That doesn’t mean Mackinnon is better now, was better through his first few seasons or will be better long term. It means it didn’t take him 5 years to match any of Matthews first two seasons. He did it the first year he was in the league. I only mentioned the 18 year old thing to show just how impressive Mackinnon’s rookie year was which for some reason seems to be unforgotton on here.

 

[Liferleafer]

This thread still going on?
It’s a scratch and sniff thread. From the moment I clicked in here something smelled fishy.
In the future OP, could you use Buffalo or another team to get your internet jollies. Thanks.

Agreed. This could be Eichel for Mak. Ir Barzal...mix it up a little.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Okay... let’s do it by age then...

NM @19 64GP 14G 24A 38P
AM @19 82GP 40G 29A 69P

Or... we could do it by draft year...

NM D+2 64GP 14G 24A 38P
AM D+2 62GP 34G 29A 63P

What are you even arguing?

I’m well aware of their seasons. Auston Matthews 2 seasons have been incredible. Much better than any of Mackinnon’s other than the first and most recent.

I’m not arguing they’ve been comparable their entire careers. I’m simply responding to those who continuously say it took Mackinnon 5 years to ever have a season as good as Matthews since that is simply incorrect. They both had near identical rookie seasons.

That doesn’t mean Mackinnon is better now, was better through his first few seasons or will be better long term. It means it didn’t take him 5 years to match any of Matthews first two seasons. He did it the first year he was in the league. I only mentioned the 18 year old thing to show just how impressive Mackinnon’s rookie year was which for some reason seems to be unforgotton on here.

 

[Allhailtheleafs]

And Mackinnon’s 47 assists are a much better accomplishment than Matthews 30.

Points. I said points. Which include both.

I'd like to point out you can win hockey games with no assists, but you can win without any goals. So goals are more valuable then assists. Not saying assists aren't important, but owls are more valuable

 

[Allhailtheleafs]

And Mackinnon’s 47 assists are a much better accomplishment than Matthews 30.

Points. I said points. Which include both.

Just want to point out, you can win games without assists. You can't win without goals. Not saying assists are valuable, just goals are in fact more important

 

[Cousin Eddie]

I'd like to point out you can win hockey games with no assists, but you can win without any goals. So goals are more valuable then assists. Not saying assists aren't important, but owls are more valuable

If a guy has 47 assists and you remove those 47 passes he made that lead to goals, those goals don’t happen.

Yes a goal is the direct action that leads to adding one on the scoreboard and if you take away 20 goals frim a player it also takes away 20 goals from the team. But if you take away 20 assists from a player that also takes away 20 goals from a team.

 

[connormcmuffin]

So we're all still pretending points are the same things as goals?

Cool, deep analysis.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

You keep repeating that MacKinnon and Matthews rookie seasons were 'nearly identical' but they werent . Similar points but one scored 40 goals, huge difference

 

[Echo Roku]

So we're all still pretending points are the same things as goals?

Cool, deep analysis.

We're all pretending goals are now the end all be all of production now because its a statistic that Matthews is good in.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

So we're all still pretending points are the same things as goals?

Cool, deep analysis.

Almost as deep as your analysis