Video My kid had his first hockey fight. Proud or Unnerved? (Video page 2)

[Slats432]

Good for him for standing up to his teammates but I'm not a fan of guys with full cages starting fights with kids with only visors (unless of course he isn't old enough to wear a visor)

In junior you can't wear a visor inless you are 18 or are a full time signed player. My son was midget AAA last year and is only 16.

 

[Loffer]

Fights are necessary in one form or another in the nature as well as in human society, be they literal fights, battles, wars or more civilized and tempered - or suppressed - ones, known as struggles. I cannot come up with any truthful description of any factual human civilization, tribal society or other organized, let alone non-organized population of people or group of people (with inevitable inherent sub-groups and sects) where this universal law of struggle did not hold and apply. Margaret Mead, an anthropologist of the Peaceful Pacific, might have presented such a dubious case once (or then it was someone else) but later it turned out to be a fraud, fabricated description of her own imagination. So, let's cut to the chase. I have always welcomed all physical and contact sports as an apt and controlled means to channel out organic and psychic pressure, inner tensions, charged mental energies, aggression - just name it. And in adolescence this need for letting some steam out on regular basis is more acute and urgent than in any other period of life. Well, individuals are of course different and some prefer playing chess or flute serenely, draw horses and butterflies in the attic or knit shirts and stuff for boys, but, in good old general, healthy young men of aspiration need these physical and or verbal, energetic confrontations time to time, the actual form of which only varying depending on the given environment. If a brisk healthy athletic Canadian boy enters a fight on ice mittens dropped it should not worry us in the least. Everything fine and well in the world as it is.

Mead came up with this fanciful matriarchal Bornean (?) society, at least. If there has never been any tranquil, completely peaceful, non-violent society in any form there has never been a matriarchal society either, run and led solely by women. Go figure.

 

[sandysan]

Fights are necessary in one form or another in the nature as well as in human society, be they literal fights, battles, wars or more civilized and tempered - or suppressed - ones, known as struggles. I cannot come up with any truthful description of any factual human civilization, tribal society or other organized, let alone non-organized population of people or group of people (with inevitable inherent sub-groups and sects) where this universal law of struggle did not hold and apply. Margaret Mead, an anthropologist of the Peaceful Pacific, might have presented such a dubious case once (or then it was someone else) but later it turned out to be a fraud, fabricated description of her own imagination. So, let's cut to the chase. I have always welcomed all physical and contact sports as an apt and controlled means to channel out organic and psychic pressure, inner tensions, charged mental energies, aggression - just name it. And in adolescence this need for letting some steam out on regular basis is more acute and urgent than in any other period of life. Well, individuals are of course different and some prefer playing chess or flute serenely, draw horses and butterflies in the attic or knit shirts and stuff for boys, but, in good old general, healthy young men of aspiration need these physical and or verbal, energetic confrontations time to time, the actual form of which only varying depending on the given environment. If a brisk healthy athletic Canadian boy enters a fight on ice mittens dropped it should not worry us in the least. Everything fine and well in the world as it is.

Mead came up with this fanciful matriarchal Bornean (?) society, at least. If there has never been any tranquil, completely peaceful, non-violent society in any form there has never been a matriarchal society either, run and led solely by women. Go figure.

well this thread just took an unexpected turn.

Anthropology on HFboards, I guess it was a matter of time.

 

[Zorf]

I'm 35 years old, play recreational men's hockey, and if someone sticks my goalie, I punch them square in the face. If you're going to jab a goalie, you do it knowing that you're at the very least getting some sort of retribution.

I'm about to start coaching, and while I'm not going to encourage fighting or punching, I am going to be clear that if anyone takes a liberty against the goalie, all bets are off. Send that message. Send it clearly. And know that you'll have your entire team and coaches behind you to back you up.

 

[Hansen]

Fights are necessary in one form or another in the nature as well as in human society, be they literal fights, battles, wars or more civilized and tempered - or suppressed - ones, known as struggles. I cannot come up with any truthful description of any factual human civilization, tribal society or other organized, let alone non-organized population of people or group of people (with inevitable inherent sub-groups and sects) where this universal law of struggle did not hold and apply. Margaret Mead, an anthropologist of the Peaceful Pacific, might have presented such a dubious case once (or then it was someone else) but later it turned out to be a fraud, fabricated description of her own imagination. So, let's cut to the chase. I have always welcomed all physical and contact sports as an apt and controlled means to channel out organic and psychic pressure, inner tensions, charged mental energies, aggression - just name it. And in adolescence this need for letting some steam out on regular basis is more acute and urgent than in any other period of life. Well, individuals are of course different and some prefer playing chess or flute serenely, draw horses and butterflies in the attic or knit shirts and stuff for boys, but, in good old general, healthy young men of aspiration need these physical and or verbal, energetic confrontations time to time, the actual form of which only varying depending on the given environment. If a brisk healthy athletic Canadian boy enters a fight on ice mittens dropped it should not worry us in the least. Everything fine and well in the world as it is.

Mead came up with this fanciful matriarchal Bornean (?) society, at least. If there has never been any tranquil, completely peaceful, non-violent society in any form there has never been a matriarchal society either, run and led solely by women. Go figure.

Ugh I feel like I just got a lungful of air from a place that has been sealed since the 50's

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Ugh I feel like I just got a lungful of air from a place that has been sealed since the 50's

Did the person that sealed it let one rip before closing and sealing off the door?

 

[Hansen]

Did the person that sealed it let one rip before closing and sealing off the door?

I can taste the spam they had been eating

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I can taste the spam they had been eating

At least it wasn't a garlic fart I guess.

 

[Loffer]

Ugh I feel like I just got a lungful of air from a place that has been sealed since the 50's

It is always a good idea to revisit history, one's own and that of mankind. Kudos to you, you noticed my a bit "old-fashioned" ethos. Truths are timeless and universal, certain of them. Wink wink.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I remember playing senior hockey and some kid challenged one of the men on the team to a fight. Kid had a cage on of course. The guy on my team took one glove off to grab the kid and kept his punching hand gloved. It was a pretty effective method to rattle the cage so to speak.

 

[vandymeer13]

You should be proud most kids are p***yes nowadays

 

[vandymeer13]

Like others have said your kids just got to be a little more patient he might run into a punch like matt Johnson did against Todd fedoruk. But fighting in hockey is a skill you learn with practice. I miss when guys would fight to stand out I remember matt barnaby saying he fought like 12 times in a weekend camp to make his junior team and he was 165 lbs.
You should be proud of your kid even if he becomes a enforcer unlike john kordics dad. If your kid was in boxing or mma you wouldn't be ashamed hockey ia no different good for your son.
Thanks for posting

 

[vandymeer13]

It could be about the damage a still developing brain of a 16 year old might take. Not that good.

you cant raise your kids in a bubble. There's always a chance you could die the next day from numerous things live life to the fullest. Having a couple of fights in a controlled atmosphere isn't the end of the world. It's not like the kid is street fighting or using weapons

 

[skipjack]

you cant raise your kids in a bubble. There's always a chance you could die the next day from numerous things live life to the fullest. Having a couple of fights in a controlled atmosphere isn't the end of the world. It's not like the kid is street fighting or using weapons

According to your avatar I guess we won't come to an understanding on this subject.

A bit strange though regarding what happened to Boogaard and his brain.
Derek Boogaard: A Brain ‘Going Bad’

And in this case we are talking about a kid, whith a brain that still are developing.

 

[vandymeer13]

According to your avatar I guess we won't come to an understanding on this subject.

A bit strange though regarding what happened to Boogaard and his brain.
Derek Boogaard: A Brain ‘Going Bad’

And in this case we are talking about a kid, whith a brain that still are developing.

yes Boogard had cte and concussions. He should of been looked at better and not allowed to play so closely after a concussion. But mixing pills and alcohol was on him. Look at Todd Ewen he was obsessed with having cte but it was depression and suicide. Every case and every person is different. Look at the domi rob ray stu grimson and others who so far haven't shown side effects.

 

[Riddum]

Proud.

Tell your kid to do 1000 push ups and 1000 squats once a week. Don't work out the day after.

In a year he'll have a punch like a mule kick and a slapshot like Chara.

Sounds like a complete waste of time. Why not just lift weights.

 

[Slats432]

Sounds like a complete waste of time. Why not just lift weights.

In the gym, 5 days a week, 2 hours a day. May till August. Put in the time.

 

[sufferer]

Given the size of your child, I'd wager he'd be able to physically handle the vast majority of the human race.

 

[amj h]

Sounds like a complete waste of time. Why not just lift weights.

I've trained some pretty decent boxers using this method. I'm not going to mention any names but trust me it builds strength and speed.

Weights are good to. I use both ways.

 

[amj h]

In the gym, 5 days a week, 2 hours a day. May till August. Put in the time.

I recommend 3 to 4 days of rest a week. The 3 days you work out you should do it twice a day. Once in the morning and once in the afternoon. up to 3 hours at a time.

 

[Slats432]

I recommend 3 to 4 days of rest a week. The 3 days you work out you should do it twice a day. Once in the morning and once in the afternoon. up to 3 hours at a time.

Hockey specific training with skating and yoga included.

 

[NCRanger]

I'm 35 years old, play recreational men's hockey, and if someone sticks my goalie, I punch them square in the face. If you're going to jab a goalie, you do it knowing that you're at the very least getting some sort of retribution.

I'm about to start coaching, and while I'm not going to encourage fighting or punching, I am going to be clear that if anyone takes a liberty against the goalie, all bets are off. Send that message. Send it clearly. And know that you'll have your entire team and coaches behind you to back you up.

I was a bigger forward (6'3", 235) who used to go to the front and poke at loose pucks around the goalie. I wouldn't purposely stick a goalie; that's bush league garbage. I expected to get hit. Part of the game even in "non-contact" men's leagues.

 

[tarheelhockey]

So... where's the video?

 

[Slats432]

So... where's the video?

In the subject...page 2.

 

[tarheelhockey]

In the subject...page 2.

Ahhhh I see it now.

Yeah, I'd say your boy did really well in that situation actually. Stuck up for his teammate in an intimidating but non-violent way, and held off from dropping the gloves till an appropriate level of escalation. If fighting is going to remain in this game, that's what it should look like.

(someone needs to let #17 know it's OK to grab a jersey or something)