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pth2 said:
I assumed this was a deal meant to take place after the lottery, myself.
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That's the only way otherwise there can't be any trade because logically, it can't be pushed into the future where the Habs rise in the standings. Or it can be 6-8 1st OR a 1st and a 3rd if it's 9-15 OR a 1st and a 2nd if it's 16th and up. Something that protects Buffalo if it's done well before draft day. Given our center situation, that would be in the miracle range.

Mehh...It probably has to be a handshake deal until draft day. Given my recent experience in the real world, that's worth close to nothing, but maybe because it's such a small GM community, it may mean something.
 
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alasania94 said:
Habs: JJ Peterka

Sabres: Arber Xhekaj + 2024 1st

Buffalo has a surplus of top 6 forwards (Savoie, Benson, Quinn, Skinner, Tuch) - they deal from that position.
Montreal has a log jam on D (Reinbacher, Guhle, Hutson, Matheson, Barron, Engstrom, Struble, Mailloux) and deal from that position.

Buffalo acquires a mean, solid D in Arber Xhekaj + the Habs 2024 1st (projected 6-9th overall)
Montreal acquires a goal-scoring top 6 winger ready to plug and play on the 2nd line next to Kirby Dach next year
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usually having both fan bases not like the trade because each thinks they're giving up too much, means the value is about right.

But, not sure why Buffallo wants to give up Peterka. They're stacked at LD and our pick after the Monahan trade could be anywhere from 3rd to 12th after the Monahan trade. It's very risky on both sides.
 
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26Mats said:
usually having both fan bases not like the trade because each thinks they're giving up too much, means the value is about right.

But, not sure why Buffallo wants to give up Peterka. They're stacked at LD and our pick after the Monahan trade could be anywhere from 3rd to 12th after the Monahan trade. It's very risky on both sides.
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No…..

Montreal doesn’t want to give up their1st and thry overvalue their spare parts.

in a re-draft Peterka easily goes in the top 15.
 

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Habs are not giving up a top-6 pick. Habs will be picking top-6 this season or better. Habs will likely trade the Jets late 1st round pick.
 
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Djp said:
No…..

Montreal doesn’t want to give up their1st and thry overvalue their spare parts.

in a re-draft Peterka easily goes in the top 15.
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No...

Xhekaj isn't a spare part.

And if Peterka goes top 15, that's not a reason to give up potentially the 3rd to 6th overall pick in the upcoming top heavy draft.
 
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look let’s speak the truth….Arbor Xhekaj is a unicorn in todays game, he skates well, has a good first pass, has offensive upside and at just 22 years old 6’4” 240 he’s a right handed menace in the d-zone.​

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However, the NHL doesn’t want the truth because deep down in places they don't talk about at parties, they want Xhekaj on that D wall, they need him on that wall.​

lol, cheers
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He is but if we draft a Dickinson Habs improve.

Would Sabres trade Peterka for Wifi?
 
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HabsAddict said:
And yet here we are with ANOTHER proposal for X.

X is a fan favorite and we don't want to see him traded unless it's a substantial overpay. It doesn't matter to us if he develops to a top 4 or bottom 6, we still like the toughness he brings.

Moving along....
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Consider the thread starter is a Hab fan, this isn't coming from Buffalo.
 
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Scintillating10 said:
He is but if we draft a Dickinson Habs improve.

Would Sabres trade Peterka for Wifi?
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No. The Habs wouldn’t !!

nothing against Peterka, I like him just not at that cost.
look the Habs are building a dynamic D core with a vast array of skill's…Xhekaj, Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron, Struble, Harris, Kova …..(in no particular order) all young & most, knocking at the door. Their forward core hasn’t been healthy since the rebuild began and needs to improve, the Monahan picks will be used to improve F’s With a big splash during the offseason.

Some rebuilding teams get a 3-5 year head start by drafting “no brainer’s” like McDavid others like the Habs have to do it the old fashioned way, by losing, lol. These three years have been difficult but lots of positives.
Cheers
 
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BJCOLLINS said:
No. The Habs wouldn’t !!

nothing against Peterka, I like him just not at that cost.
look the Habs are building a dynamic D core with a vast array of skill's…Xhekaj, Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron, Struble, Harris, Kova …..(in no particular order) all young & most, knocking at the door. Their forward core hasn’t been healthy since the rebuild began and needs to improve, the Monahan picks will be used to improve F’s With a big splash during the offseason.

Some rebuilding teams get a 3-5 year head start by drafting “no brainer’s” like McDavid others like the Habs have to do it the old fashioned way, by losing, lol. These three years have been difficult but lots of positives.
Cheers
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We overloaded on D though. While short on goal scoring forward
 
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Djp said:
No…..

Montreal doesn’t want to give up their1st and thry overvalue their spare parts.

in a re-draft Peterka easily goes in the top 15.
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Exactly. Top 15. Not top 5.
Panthaz89 said:
I'd rather have JJP than pretty much any pick except no.1 this draft isn't like last year.
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That’s a hot take considering the names on the board.
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Peterka is proven top 6 player at 22....what is enticing about 2 assets that have proved nothing really?
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Exactly. Top 6. When you draft top 5 you’re not expecting a top 6 player but a top line player. There’s level to this thing is Peterka is just not on the level of a top 5 player.
 
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BJCOLLINS said:
No. The Habs wouldn’t !!

nothing against Peterka, I like him just not at that cost.
look the Habs are building a dynamic D core with a vast array of skill's…Xhekaj, Guhle, Hutson, Reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron, Struble, Harris, Kova …..(in no particular order) all young & most, knocking at the door. Their forward core hasn’t been healthy since the rebuild began and needs to improve, the Monahan picks will be used to improve F’s With a big splash during the offseason.

Some rebuilding teams get a 3-5 year head start by drafting “no brainer’s” like McDavid others like the Habs have to do it the old fashioned way, by losing, lol. These three years have been difficult but lots of positives.
Cheers
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If it was a straight up, one for one trade, this is an easy win for one particular team. Montreal's management would be idiots for not making the trade.
 

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People love overvaluing their picks. Picks 6-9 (which is most likely where the habs finish) are far from guaranteed stars, we see this EVERY SINGLE year.

Look at the numbers:
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Picks 6-9 on average will land you a player that will end his career with a season by season 82 game average of about 42 points. Peterka is going to smash that easily as we can see by his play in the NHL THIS YEAR.

Over the last 5 years you've had guys like Matt Tkachuk, Clayton Keller, Sergachev, Quinn Hughes drafted in that range...But for all of those you've also had the Alex Nylander, Olli Juolevi, Lias Andersson, Cody Glass, Filip Zadina's of the world.

Would you trade the pick + Xhekaj for Keller or Tkachuk? easily
Would you trade the pick + Xhekaj for Andersson or Glass? never

Ultimately, Peterka is a known commodity, and a damned good one at that. Furthermore, this draft is a D heavy one, the forward class is nothing special and the Habs don't need more D lol.
 
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