Mourinho out

[Halladay]

He ends up back with Madrid? Takes over for Woy?

 

[Panteras]

He ends up back with Madrid? Takes over for Woy?

or could be Al Hilal's next manager who knows.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

So someone tell me the solution from Mourinho when all but like two or three of the players in his squad are playing terribly?

 

[Edo]

So someone tell me the solution from Mourinho when all but like two or three of the players in his squad are playing terribly?

The mood and culture of the club went down the ****ter and he is the reason. Pretty simple.

Seems like the Italians are the only people who don't give a **** what kind of style their teams play. Mourinho will probably end up there. It would be crazy for United to dump Van Gaal for Mourinho with their fans *****ing about LVG being boring.

Mourinho is a mid table manager who was given big budgets and unlimited resources. I hope he goes to coach a freaking Sunderland or Aston Villa.

 

[Live in the Now]

Mid-table manager with more European Cups than Arsenal. Please, give it a rest.

United should hire him, but not too sure they care about winning at this particular time.

 

[Evilo]

So being over dramatic then, he's won everything a manager could win in Europe, yes he is a dick, but a dick that wins. So he didn't win with Madrid, won with Porto, won the treble with inter, won at Chelsea.

Chelsea and Real won a CL when he was gone.

 

[Evilo]

United should hire him. You'd get boring football, but at least, Mourhino wins some trophies.
LVG is an embrassement.

 

[Edo]

Mid-table manager with more European Cups than Arsenal. Please, give it a rest.

United should hire him, but not too sure they care about winning at this particular time.

Mourinho got lucky. We all thought Ranieri was garbage, and look at him now.

You just need to luck at his track record and how he leaves clubs. Not sure how anybody can look at his sample of work and call him a top manager.

Dude loves to rag on Wenger, but Wenger is a god compared to him.

 

[Live in the Now]

Let's just do since 2005 rather than 2004 because it's easier to put together, even though Mourinho won two trophies in 2004.

Jose Mourinho

Chelsea

Premier League: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2014–15
FA Cup: 2006–07
Football League Cup: 2004–05, 2006–07, 2014–15
FA Community Shield: 2005

Inter Milan

Serie A: 2008–09, 2009–10
Coppa Italia: 2009–10
Supercoppa Italiana: 2008
UEFA Champions League: 2009–10

Real Madrid

La Liga: 2011–12
Copa del Rey: 2010–11
Supercopa de España: 2012

Arsene Wenger

FA Cup: 2004–05, 2013–14, 2014–15
FA Community Shield: 2004, 2014, 2015


Laughable.

 

[Live in the Now]

Also, only somebody who doesn't pay attention would think Ranieri was terrible. Look at all the clubs he's guided to CL qualification.

Consider the source though.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

Such a beauty. Come back, baby.

 

[Evilo]

Jose Mourinho

Chelsea

Premier League: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2014–15
FA Cup: 2006–07
Football League Cup: 2004–05, 2006–07, 2014–15
FA Community Shield: 2005

Inter Milan

Serie A: 2008–09, 2009–10
Coppa Italia: 2009–10
Supercoppa Italiana: 2008
UEFA Champions League: 2009–10

Real Madrid

La Liga: 2011–12
Copa del Rey: 2010–11
Supercopa de España: 2012

Obviously not arguing about Wenger here, but how can anyone not see Mourinho has lost the plot here?
From a treble with Inter (albeit in a very weak Serie A year), to 1 single league title with Real, one single Copa del Rey and not a single CL final. With the most expensive team in the world. And as soon as he's gone, Real wins the CL.

That should tell you a lot.

 

[Edo]

Let's just do since 2005 rather than 2004 because it's easier to put together, even though Mourinho won two trophies in 2004.

Jose Mourinho

Chelsea

Premier League: 2004–05, 2005–06, 2014–15
FA Cup: 2006–07
Football League Cup: 2004–05, 2006–07, 2014–15
FA Community Shield: 2005

Inter Milan

Serie A: 2008–09, 2009–10
Coppa Italia: 2009–10
Supercoppa Italiana: 2008
UEFA Champions League: 2009–10

Real Madrid

La Liga: 2011–12
Copa del Rey: 2010–11
Supercopa de España: 2012

Arsene Wenger

FA Cup: 2004–05, 2013–14, 2014–15
FA Community Shield: 2004, 2014, 2015


Laughable.

Mourinho manages results, not clubs. And again, he went into situations with clubs that were expected to win, with huge resources, and established rosters set in place. He's done a horrible job of furthering prospects and developing much of anything. We've seen more examples of him ruining players, and leaving teams in shambles. He's been fired 3 times.

Look at him and what he's done. Who the **** would want this guy managing their club? I would kill myself if he took over Arsenal. There are variables with the squads that these managers have control of to.

Would you actually want him to manage Liverpool? Make a poll of people who would actually want this fool anywhere near their club. Pretty sure only existing Chelsea fans would say yes.

Also, Mourinho with Real Madrid was a gigantic failure. Just massive.

 

[Edo]

Do you also realize how much money that Mourinho has lost some of these teams? Lost Chelsea hundreds of millions with his horrible management. h

Don't fixate yourself on results that dozens of managers would replicate if they were in the same situation. Look at the bigger picture and you'll realize how wrong you are on him LITN.

 

[maclean]

Mourinho manages results, not clubs. And again, he went into situations with clubs that were expected to win, with huge resources, and established rosters set in place. He's done a horrible job of furthering prospects and developing much of anything. We've seen more examples of him ruining players, and leaving teams in shambles. He's been fired 3 times.

Look at him and what he's done. Who the **** would want this guy managing their club? I would kill myself if he took over Arsenal. There are variables with the squads that these managers have control of to.

Would you actually want him to manage Liverpool? Make a poll of people who would actually want this fool anywhere near their club. Pretty sure only existing Chelsea fans would say yes.

Also, Mourinho with Real Madrid was a gigantic failure. Just massive.

In general I agree with you, but to claim that "anybody" could have done the same things he did is a bit extreme. His negatives outweigh his positives but you can't totally negate the fact that he must have some managerial skill that gets put to use before he ****s everything up with his personality.

 

[Evilo]

Mourinho is excellent in a "us against the world" mentality. When his team is not favourite, that the pressure is on the opponents, he wills his players to victory. His negative football in that case is often overlooked because you don't expect them to win those games.

Mourinho is just not made for big teams.

 

[kov]

I can certainly understand how his methods lead to that conclusion, but my opinion slightly differs.

His approach, like Benitez was, is always good for knockout competitions, it's in the league where he runs into trouble because you can't scrape through on away goals. And virtually all of his league successes depended on the overpowering financial advantage of those clubs that hired him.

 

[mmk786]

He did win the CL with Porto. That alone makes him a great manager.

 

[kov]

It does; but people seem to forget how easy their route was that year compared to virtually any other year. I'd also say that his Porto team had all the hallmarks of stretching the limits of the rules around violent conduct, but with a minnow it was 'charming' -- and ended up baiting opponents into red cards in 4 out of their 7 matches.

 

[pcruz]

He did win the CL with Porto. That alone makes him a great manager.

Correction, Mourinho won a UEFA Cup followed by a Champion's League Trophy with Porto in the 3 years he managed there!

But of course, we were expected to win with the likes of...let's see if I can remember the roster back then:

Derlei
Postiga
McCarthy
Alenichev
Marco Ferreira
Deco
Maniche
Costinha
Paulo Ferreira
Nuno Valente
Jorge Costa
Ricardo Carvalho
Victor Baia
Carlos Alberto

Now that's a team filled with superstars expected to win consecutive European titles!

 

[Evilo]

Actually that was basically the Portugal NT.
Not that it takes anything away from Mourinho and Porto, but they almost didn't create any upset in that CL run.
Beat a Monaco team that couldn't cope with the pressure in the final.
Barely beat a Deportivo team in a defensive struggle in the semis.
Beat a pressured Lyon team by showing efficiency rather than class in the quarters.
Beat United in the only upsets they had in their entire run. Again there it was very close.
In the group stage, they barely beat OM and Partizan at home, and got outclassed by Real. Away, they won at Marseille and tied the other two games in defensive struggles.

 

[Power Man]

What's wrong with efficiency vs class ?

And every trophy winner will have some luck at some point or face short handed teams

 

[Evilo]

It was a cinderella run by a team who didn't face many big teams along the way, that's my point.
You could also argue that Mourinho's second CL, with Inter, was tremendously helped by bad reffing in the semis.

We're not talking about a coach whose team outclassed the opposition. He won the CL by parking the bus and relying on violent conduct along the way.

 

[Cassano]

Mid-table manager with more European Cups than Arsenal. Please, give it a rest.

United should hire him, but not too sure they care about winning at this particular time.

That's not really saying much.

 

[kov]

Exactly. Which suggests that he's just another top-class manager, rather than being the greatest ever.