Mitchell Marner vs Sebastian Aho

[IPS]

Oh god this thread is hilarious. Marner is so much better than Aho it's not even funny. He does things on the ice that Aho could only dream of doing

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Maybe one day Mitchy Mitch can show he’s a consistent 20 goal scorer like mcdavid/eichel/Rantanen/Aho. Until then it’s Aho and AINEC.

 

[Macallan18]

lol this thread is a perfect illustration as to why the main boards suck eggs

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Oh god this thread is hilarious. Marner is so much better than Aho it's not even funny. He does things on the ice that Aho could only dream of doing

Hahaha you've probably seen so many games of Aho ahahahaha hohohoho.

Aho's better

 

[BB88]

Oh god this thread is hilarious. Marner is so much better than Aho it's not even funny. He does things on the ice that Aho could only dream of doing

They are posting about the same points per game except Aho is the better goal scorer and we are back to AINEC? Love it.

 

[Snowsii]

Sorry Carolina is trash? I guess playing more time and getting more PP time doesn't make up for it???

Ps: Marner got 60 points in his first year playing v men, sorry it took Aho to his 2nd year.

Maybe he gets more TOI, but lacks in support..

In Rantanen V Marner, several Leafs fans mentioned Marner getting 60 points last season and Rantanen getting "only" 38.. Forgetting to mention that Leafs scored +50% more goals than Avs, Rantanen being Avs best goalscorer and third best in points..

60 points isnt PPG you know

 

[Holymakinaw]

Aho is literally carrying the Hurricanes, Marner is behind the HUGE shadow of Matthews in a rather comfortably role. Aho is way, way better AINEC.

Uh........Matthews was hurt and missed more than 20+ games. Marner was all on his own for 1/4 of the season and scored at more than a point per game over that time.

 

[glucker]

Man with all these polls involving Leaf players and the way Leaf fans have been voting in those poll you would think with all the best players in the league it should be a cakewalk for the Leafs to win the Stanley Cup .

Leafs are 6th in the league with 101 points, and are +43.

Canes are 20th in the league with 81 points and are -26.


It might be safe to argue the Leafs have better players.

 

[LeafFever]

Why is this as close as it is? And why are people so desperate to name Aho as they are resorting to the argument Marner plays on a better team? Marner has clearly been the better player for 2 years. Marner spent time on the 4th line this season and played half a season with guys who could not put the puck in the net.
Marner easily.

 

[LeafFever]

Maybe one day Mitchy Mitch can show he’s a consistent 20 goal scorer like mcdavid/eichel/Rantanen/Aho. Until then it’s Aho and AINEC.

Oh my as a 19 year-old rookie he got 19 goals. Forget all other stats! He did not score exactly 20 in 1 of his 2 NHL seasons! That matters more than Marner having better stats in their careers thus far.

 

[Mountlaine]

Marner is a bit better but I take Aho who can play center position if needed.

 

[LeafFever]

Marner is a bit better but I take Aho who can play center position if needed.

By that argument Nylander is better than Marner I guess.

 

[BB88]

By that argument Nylander is better than Marner I guess.

Hasn't that been the basic argument in Nylander related threads?

 

[LeafFever]

Hasn't that been the basic argument in Nylander related threads?

THe issue is, if Marner is claerly getting better production in 2 years over Aho, the idea he could possibly play centre means less.
I would never use the centre argument in a Nylander Vs poll if the other player was claerly better.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Why is this as close as it is? And why are people so desperate to name Aho as they are resorting to the argument Marner plays on a better team? Marner has clearly been the better player for 2 years. Marner spent time on the 4th line this season and played half a season with guys who could not put the puck in the net.
Marner easily.

Marner has 5 more points & 6 less goals this season in four more games played, while playing on a MUCH better team. Yes, truly not even close. Not biased btw.

 

[BB88]

THe issue is, if Marner is claerly getting better production in 2 years over Aho, the idea he could possibly play centre means less.
I would never use the centre argument in a Nylander Vs poll if the other player was claerly better.

This thread doesn't have a player who's clearly better.

They are producing similar numbers, Aho is the better goal scorer, neither are known as 1 dimensional players.

The C argument has been used plenty of times in Nylander threads when there really have been nothing else going for him.

 

[LeafFever]

This thread doesn't have a player who's clearly better.

They are producing similar numbers, Aho is the better goal scorer, neither are known as 1 dimensional players.

The C argument has been used plenty of times in Nylander threads when there really have been nothing else going for him.

Yes, Marner is clearly better with less ice-time over 2 years of their careers.

 

[BB88]

Yes, Marner is clearly better with less ice-time over 2 years of their careers.

There's no way you can make that argument for this year so this is pointless.

 

[LeafFever]

There's no way you can make that argument for this year so this is pointless.

Mitch Marner:
2017-18: 78 GP, 69 Pts, 0.88 PPG, 16:20 TOI

Career:
155 GP, 130 Pts, .84 PPG, 16:34 TOI

Sebastien Aho:
2017-18: 74 GP, 64 Pts, 0.86 PPG, 17:51 TOI

Career:
156 GP, 113 Pts, 0.72 PPG, 17:18 TOI

In 2 years thus far, Marner is better with less TOI.

 

[BB88]

Mitch Marner:
2017-18: 78 GP, 69 Pts, 0.88 PPG, 16:20 TOI

Career:
155 GP, 130 Pts, .84 PPG, 16:34 TOI

Sebastien Aho:
2017-18: 74 GP, 64 Pts, 0.86 PPG, 17:51 TOI

Career:
156 GP, 113 Pts, 0.72 PPG, 17:18 TOI

In 2 years thus far, Marner is better with less TOI.

So you agree with me that you can't make that case for this year, good.

 

[LeafFever]

So you agree with me that you can't make that case for this year, good.

Marner is better this year with less ice-time. Why are you trying to debate the #'s?
Let's have Aho be better one year before we vote for him as better, shall we?

 

[BB88]

Marner is better this year with less ice-time. Why are you trying to debate the #'s?

Then prove it.

Marner 78 games, 69 points, 22 goals,
Aho 74 games, 64 points, 28 goals.

Shows Aho is the better goal scorer.

Some of you guys are amazing, we keep hearing how Toronto has one of the best forward groups in the league and for these threads you never happen to mention it, it somehow disappears.

Toronto has multiple players taking the pressure off from Marner, Aho has 0 in Carolina, and now you will argue it and it another thread argue again how Toronto has one of the best F groups in the league.

 

[LeafFever]

Then prove it.

Marner 78 games, 69 points, 22 goals,
Aho 74 games, 64 points, 28 goals.

Shows Aho is the better goal scorer.

Some of you guys are amazing, we keep hearing how Toronto has one of the best forward groups in the league and for these threads you never happen to mention it, it somehow disappears.

I'm confused why Marner having a better supporting cast matters when you consider how he was used this season. Aho has more TOI in his 2 years and has less production. Marner was stuck on the 4th line at times. But having a better supporting cast matters? Kadri was one of the coldest players in the NHL until Mitch played with him.
The Leafs imo, have the best depth upfront of any NHL team. But that does not matter in the Marner discussion. Why? Because I have watched his 78 games. I know who he played with and his usage.

 

[BB88]

I'm confused why Marner having a better supporting cast matters when you consider how he was used this season. Aho has more TOI in his 2 years and has less production. Marner was stuck on the 4th line at times. But having a better supporting cast matters? Kadri was one of the coldest players in the NHL until Mitch played with him.

I don't know what to say if you don't get it.

And again the stats show Aho is the better goal scorer scoring at similar rate to Marner, but you somehow read it as Marner clearly outproducing Aho.

 

[LeafFever]

I don't know what to say if you don't get it.

And again the stats show Aho is the better goal scorer scoring at similar rate to Marner, but you somehow read it as Marner clearly outproducing Aho.

You kep pointing out Aho has more goals but then pull the "Similar Scoring rate". No, Marner has been better this year AND last year! At what point does Aho have to at least be better once to be considered better? The standard seems much higher for Mitch.