Value of: Mitch Marner Contract Mega-Thread Pt. 2

[WHISTLERNATE]

I still think Dubas will use Kucherov's $9.5 million AAV as the benchmark. He signed that after having 100 points last season and this season Marner had 94 points.

Also please don't use the Florida state tax as to why it's not comparable. The only thing Dubas see's is the number Kucherov got and it was $9.5 million AAV contract.

Cool. The only thing Marner sees is his 6.5 in the bank after tax compared to Kuch's 9.5.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

You wish.

Marner + Matthews making less than 2 M combined was a major advantage they had.

They will be making about 23 M combined next season....

 

[LeafsNation75]

Cool. The only thing Marner sees is his 6.5 in the bank after tax compared to Kuch's 9.5.

I'm sure Dubas would front load his contract and give him signing bonuses the way he did for Tavares and Matthews.

Never mind all the money Marner already makes from his endorsements.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

I don’t understand why things like less tax in Tampa, and cheaper cost of living allows them to lower their players aav. But endorsements in Toronto don’t seem to count for some reason.

When I watch tv in Toronto, I see Marner and/or Nylander in pretty much every other commercial. Doubt it’s like that in Florida. So why isn’t that part of the equation?

Oh, and Rantanen has far more goals and points over the past 2 seasons than Marner, and was a flat out machine the first round of the playoffs.

If Marner makes even one PENNY more than a Rantanen, Dubas should be fired.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

I don’t understand why things like less tax in Tampa, and cheaper cost of living allows them to lower their players aav. But endorsements in Toronto don’t seem to count for some reason.

When I watch tv in Toronto, I see Marner and/or Nylander in pretty much every other commercial. Doubt it’s like that in Florida. So why isn’t that part of the equation?

Oh, and Rantanen has far more goals and points over the past 2 seasons than Marner, and was a flat out machine the first round of the playoffs.

If Marner makes even one PENNY more than a Rantanen, Dubas should be fired.

It’s not the NBA... limited off ice money even in Toronto. There are no sneaker contracts.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

It’s not the NBA... limited off ice money even in Toronto. There are no sneaker contracts.

So Marner's making chump change from these dozens of endorsements? In the centre of the hockey universe?

I simply don't believe that.

 

[BB88]

I still think Dubas will use Kucherov's $9.5 million AAV as the benchmark. He signed that after having 100 points last season and this season Marner had 94 points.

Also please don't use the Florida state tax as to why it's not comparable. The only thing Dubas see's is the number Kucherov got and it was $9.5 million AAV contract.

That's tough with the Matthews contract.

 

[BigTime99]

If marner doesn't get signed by June 25 and he can be offersheeted. The hurricanes look to be in a good spot to offersheet marner. I think they wanted to add 2 top 6 forwards but only got niederieter. They have a tonne of cap space, a owner willing to shake things up, a bunch of prospects and can probably afford to drop 4 first rounds picks.

 

[TSN Jdog]

He's going to ask for $13,000,000 AAV and hes gonna get it because Dubas has a blank check book and forgot about the salary cap....

 

[LeafsNation75]

That's tough with the Matthews contract.

What about the comparable that Marner and Kucherov are both play at right wing and Matthews plays at centre?

 

[A1LeafNation]

9.95m x 8 years

 

[LeafsNation75]

So Marner's making chump change from these dozens of endorsements? In the centre of the hockey universe?

I simply don't believe that.

Look at the endorsements that Matthews and Tavares already have.

 

[doorbag]

I still think Dubas will use Kucherov's $9.5 million AAV as the benchmark. He signed that after having 100 points last season and this season Marner had 94 points.

Also please don't use the Florida state tax as to why it's not comparable. The only thing Dubas see's is the number Kucherov got and it was $9.5 million AAV contract.

Kucherov’s contract is basically irrelevant when there are two recently signed players on Toronto that Marner is better than making 11million a year. How did using Kucherov’s deal as a benchmark work in negotiations with Matthews?

 

[LeafsNation75]

Kucherov’s contract is basically irrelevant when there are two recently signed players on Toronto that Marner is better than making 11million a year. How did using Kucherov’s deal as a benchmark work in negotiations with Matthews?

I think Dubas mentioned how Matthews was worth what he got because he plays at centre and it's a position that Kucherov does not play.

 

[BB88]

What about the comparable that Marner and Kucherov are both play at right wing and Matthews plays at centre?

Matthews and Marner are both coming off elc's, they play for the same team, Marner had the better season, Marner should get 8 not 5 years.

 

[Seanaconda]

So Marner's making chump change from these dozens of endorsements? In the centre of the hockey universe?

I simply don't believe that.

Tavares is getting 1.4 mill in endorsements this year how much do you think marner is getting ?

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Tavares is getting 1.4 mill in endorsements this year how much do you think marner is getting ?

How much do you think Rantanen, Point, and Aho are getting?

 

[LeafsNation75]

Matthews and Marner are both coming off elc's, they play for the same team, Marner had the better season, Marner should get 8 not 5 years.

I agree that Marner had the better season. It's just easier said than done that he should get 8 years instead of the 5 years Matthews signed for.

I don't think you will see any Leafs fans who want Marner to sign for 5 years and I'm one of them.

 

[doorbag]

I think Dubas mentioned how Matthews was worth what he got because he plays at centre and it's a position that Kucherov does not play.

So despite proving himself to be a superior player, Marner should accept 2m less than Matthews per year because he doesn’t play center? If that’s what Dubas is bringing to the negotiation room I don’t see it going very well.

 

[LeafsNation75]

So despite proving himself to be a superior player, Marner should accept 2m less than Matthews per year because he doesn’t play center? If that’s what Dubas is bringing to the negotiation room I don’t see it going very well.

So far there has no rumor of a specific number Marner originally wants the way it was reported that Nylander asked for the $8.5 million AAV which the Oilers gave Leon Draisaitl, which in the end he never got close to. So there is going to have to be give and take from both sides.

 

[PWJunior]

11.16M and 5 years.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

So despite proving himself to be a superior player, Marner should accept 2m less than Matthews per year because he doesn’t play center? If that’s what Dubas is bringing to the negotiation room I don’t see it going very well.

Why would Rantanen's agent accept less than Matthews, or Marner for that matter?
Rantanen put up substantially more points and goals the past 2 years, and is having a CRAZY playoffs.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Why would Rantanen's agent accept less than Matthews, or Marner for that matter?
Rantanen put up substantially more points and goals the past 2 years, and is having a CRAZY playoffs.

How about Brayden Point as another example to use, if you only focus on his regular season and not the playoffs.

 

[Seanaconda]

How much do you think Rantanen, Point, and Aho are getting?

I think the most is around 4 a year with mcdavid Crosby and ovie making the most and then around tenth highest it's around 1 a year. Not great money in endorsements for hockey players.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

I think the most is around 4 a year with mcdavid Crosby and ovie making the most and then around tenth highest it's around 1 a year. Not great money in endorsements for hockey players.

Are you in Toronto? Marner is on every other commercial. He's all over billboards. He's everywhere. Whatever you're doing in Toronto, Marner is looking at you. Far more than any other player than I can think of.

He's got to be making a shit ton of money. Enough to, at the very least, even up the whole tax in Tampa thing.