Sebastien
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Not Minnesota.Other teams i see being in the hunt for Miller:
LA
Nashville
Minny
Colorado
Florida
Columbus
Not Minnesota.Other teams i see being in the hunt for Miller:
LA
Nashville
Minny
Colorado
Florida
Columbus
Not Minnesota.
Minnesota has no bad cap. Guerin won't give up 1st round picks, or prospects for rentals, that has been made clear. There's a reason Guerin stopped showing interest. Canucks fans we get it, but certain teams like Minnesota isn't paying for rentalsI think Minny would be all over it if they are looking to compete for next year while having so much dead cap weight.
Getting point producing players with low AAV is probably at the top of their list.
They can even send Van back a cap dump if needed.
Minnesota can neither extend Miller nor improve on the roster they lost in the 1st round with this year. He'd be a great fit, but contract wise it's a dead end.Other teams i see being in the hunt for Miller:
LA
Nashville
Minny
Colorado
Florida
Columbus
i'm not sure who on the Rangers' side would want this. The time for that trade was this past deadline. Rangers set their offer, then when Vancouver opted to hold onto him, they went after more cost appropriate pieces. It becomes even less likely for the Rangers do this trade with those particular pieces now because Schneider and Chytil are both becoming roster players. Teams that historically splurge for an expiring veteran, end up trading assets/futures. They rarely deal a player off of their roster, let alone two. Those two players are now young staples to the team that they want to compete with. This trade makes very little sense now. I also see that you added the cost for Miller up to four pieces, instead of the original three pieces, yet Miller has less of a playoff run on his contract. This is pure wishful thinking on the Canucks fan, but please keep fantasizing.Just trade him to the Rangers for Schnieder, 2023 1st, Chytil and a 2nd and be done with it. Both teams want it done so why not
It just makes sense, Im just a neutral fan commentating on an appropriate tradei'm not sure who on the Rangers' side would want this. The time for that trade was this past deadline. Rangers set their offer, then when Vancouver opted to hold onto him, they went after more cost appropriate pieces. It becomes even less likely for the Rangers do this trade with those particular pieces now because Schneider and Chytil are both becoming roster players. Teams that historically splurge for an expiring veteran, end up trading assets/futures. They rarely deal a player off of their roster, let alone two. Those two players are now young staples to the team that they want to compete with. This trade makes very little sense now. I also see that you added the cost for Miller up to four pieces, instead of the original three pieces, yet Miller has less of a playoff run on his contract. This is pure wishful thinking on the Canucks fan, but please keep fantasizing.
Nothing against Nylander, but Vancouvers least needs is winger.
They have Pettersson playing wing at times, Boeser, Garland, Podkolzin, Hoglander. Pearson is still servicable as well..
Nylander is also only under contract for 2 more year and could walk just as when Van is wanting to compete.
Miller is the biggest trade chip in 20 years for the franchise, i doubt they use it on a winger like Nylander.
If id guess, they are targeting young top prospects on ELC or cost controlled or high end young Dmen.
Thats a meh offer especially considering those 1sts arent even top 16 and likely low end 1st rounders.
I think that offer gets beaten easily, especially with Miller at 50%.
The gamble part is really overstated here. I don't think at this point his career high with NYR and Tampa really has any relevance as he's clearly a better player now and is playing a bigger role.Can't say I blame them. It's a huge gamble to sign him to a big contract let alone trade large assets for him. Which Miller are you getting? Career high of 58 points between NYR and Tampa. Then went PPG(72 in 69) in his first year with Vancouver, was outscored by Boeser last year and only had 46 in 53 and was a superstar this year. Not sure I want to drop so many assets and risk a 9+ AAV on such a gamble.
Definitely a monster piece as a rental though.
The Canucks need defense and a play driving 3C. Swapping two top 6 forwards (one with 100 point capability and top end FO ability) for a ppg guy who's 3 years younger and the same age respectively (and only proven to be able to put up PPG) doesn't make much sense.Maybe it's an even bigger deal where it's something like
Miller+ Garland
for Nylander+ another player
Maybe Vancouver Swaps 2 wingers for 1 winger in Nylander and another player
I'm not going to suggest who that other player is because I don't know what Vancouver needs.
But I do know that at last years deadline, before Garland's summer trade to Vancouver Dubas had conversations with Arizona about Garland.
maybe he tries to land both Miller and Garland
who knows all I know for sure is I expect changes because Dubas has 1 year remaining on his deal and Matthews can sign an extension in a year.
this is a BIG summer for the franchise
I’d be open to starting discussion around this… likely Canucks would want a pick/prospect too but Carlo would be of interest for sure.Bruins desperatly need that guy they have Debrusk and Carlo to start discussions
Carlo is super appealing, but that isn't an attractive start to am offer.Bruins desperatly need that guy they have Debrusk and Carlo to start discussions
Logistically, I agree. Every team below Vancouver will likely be in the same situation the Canucks are where Miller just does not make sense.LA makes the most sense
I'd be hard-pressed to do Garland+ for Nylander. He offers put team none of what we want or need, is more expensive and is only 3 years younger then Miller, and the same age as Garland, and both bring more to our team than Nylander.Maybe it's an even bigger deal where it's something like
Miller+ Garland
for Nylander+ another player
Maybe Vancouver Swaps 2 wingers for 1 winger in Nylander and another player
I'm not going to suggest who that other player is because I don't know what Vancouver needs.
But I do know that at last years deadline, before Garland's summer trade to Vancouver Dubas had conversations with Arizona about Garland.
maybe he tries to land both Miller and Garland
who knows all I know for sure is I expect changes because Dubas has 1 year remaining on his deal and Matthews can sign an extension in a year.
this is a BIG summer for the franchise
I'd be hard-pressed to do Garland+ for Nylander. He offers put team none of what we want or need, is more expensive and is only 3 years younger then Miller, and the same age as Garland, and both bring more to our team than Nylander.
Toronto doesn't have the assets we want, plain and simple.
Clarke straight up.LA makes the most sense
Exactly. Vancouver’s D is a mess. If the team is trading Miller it’s for a youngish D with upside as the center piece. Nylander is a fine player but not what Vancouver needs.I'd be hard-pressed to do Garland+ for Nylander. He offers put team none of what we want or need, is more expensive and is only 3 years younger then Miller, and the same age as Garland, and both bring more to our team than Nylander.
Toronto doesn't have the assets we want, plain and simple.
Your proposed trade makes no sense for the Canucks, and a hell of a lot of sense for the Leafs.maybe they don't have the assets YOU want but you aren't running the team