Friedman: Miller extension unlikely with Canucks, timeline doesnt fit, and trade offers are going to be too good to pass up

[Sebastien]

Vancouver isn't getting what they think he's worth due to being a rental when teams didn't when he wasn't one

 

[Guitpik]

Other teams i see being in the hunt for Miller:

LA
Nashville
Minny
Colorado
Florida
Columbus

Doubt the Kings would be in the mix here. They would be looking for a younger player that would fit in with their rebuild age.

 

[Peter Griffin]

with retention many can be there.

with an RFA a team could sign 1 yr and retain.

the markets going to be saturated. There are others I didn’t mention.

Miller is the oldest among them which will hurt his perceived value. Nobody is signing him to 6 yrs at 30.

None of those teams, save maybe Larkin in Detroit(doubt they’re considering moving him) are going to be retaining salary.

 

[Legion34]

What’s the extension demand 7 x 7?

 

[Ezpz]

Kind of makes me feel old knowing JT Miller is after his "last big money contract" when I remember advocating to draft him in 2011. Unfortunately he went before the Habs picked. Armia was next on my list. Of course the Habs got Beaulieu, a can't miss top 5(North American prospects) rated prospect.

 

[touchnotthecat]

So Carlo, Lysell, Frederic for Miller+? Not terrible depending on what the + is. But I would imagine they'll be looking for an offer that includes either a more dynamic defenseman or a young center instead of a winger in Lysell.

I think the opposite. With Hughes and Rathbone Vancouver have two very dynamic defensemen that need partners. If Rathbone makes the team next year in a sheltered 3rd pair/2nd PP role he and Schenn are a good fit and Carlo can play with Hughes/OEL.
Yes Lysell isn't the perfect prospect to target but I mean he's pretty good and been mentioned in the media previously so I assume he would be in any deal with Boston.

 

[AvroArrow]

Dubas needs to be in on this even if it is just a 1 season rental espically if he can be had at 2.65 million

He would be perfect for Tavares, I wonder what the cost us. Would have to be a grade A prospect + 1st + a little more

If I'm Vancouver I'm asking for Lily + 1st +

 

[Guitpik]

core pieces coming back that addresses Vancouver's needs would be

LA - Mikey Anderson. ______then Fagemo, Clarke, ...Kirsanov interesting, not so sold on Turcotte anymore compared to what itll cost to acquire him.
Nashville - Jeannot, Fabbro
Colorado - Newhook, after heavy consultation with medical staff Byram.
Florida - Weegar? Lundell ...one can dream
Columbus - Peeke, Sillinger, Marchenko is interesting

Kings are not trading any of those players for Miller. Anderson coming off of injury played a good in the playoffs and showed some toughness and snarl. Kings like what they have in Fagemo as a scoring winger and Clarke is a non-starter. The Kings traded up in last year's draft for Kirsanov, who was good in the Worlds before it ended. He's a tough defensively minded defenseman who can move he puck. The King's management still likes Turc and he's not going anywhere at this point.

 

[Aqualung]

Kings are not trading any of those players for Miller. Anderson coming off of injury played a good in the playoffs and showed some toughness and snarl. Kings like what they have in Fagemo as a scoring winger and Clarke is a non-starter. The Kings traded up in last year's draft for Kirsanov, who was good in the Worlds before it ended. He's a tough defensively minded defenseman who can move he puck. The King's management still likes Turc and he's not going anywhere at this point.

Your 10th ranked prospect and your 7th round pick sounds fair.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

He would be perfect for Tavares, I wonder what the cost us. Would have to be a grade A prospect + 1st + a little more

If I'm Vancouver I'm asking for Lily + 1st +

If he was acquired there is a part of me that would like to see

Miller Matthews Marner

I get that Bunting Matthews Marner was good, it was very good

But if you could get somehow Miller without giving up Nylander I think you got to try Miller Matthews Marner

then Bunting Tavares Nylander

 

[Peter Griffin]

I think the opposite. With Hughes and Rathbone Vancouver have two very dynamic defensemen that need partners. If Rathbone makes the team next year in a sheltered 3rd pair/2nd PP role he and Schenn are a good fit and Carlo can play with Hughes/OEL.
Yes Lysell isn't the perfect prospect to target but I mean he's pretty good and been mentioned in the media previously so I assume he would be in any deal with Boston.

Would just be an underwhelming offer for me. Defensive defenseman, 4th line center and another small winger. Meh.

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

From the Leafs it probably takes
2022 1st + Liljegren + Knies
I wouldnt pay that knowing hes ufa the next year.

 

[iFan]

Vancouver isn't getting what they think he's worth due to being a rental when teams didn't when he wasn't one

well apparently creditable NHL insider are reporting something completely different than your opinion

 

[kinghock]

I doubt Columbus too. Miller is 29 years, UFA after the next season. Even if he will be resigned, value for him would be too big. Plus he wants 5-7 years contract, it's to 34-36 years.

I doubt LA too for the same reason

 

[kinghock]

I think LA makes the most sense as they have loads of RHS D prospects and feel they can contend soon.
I don't however think they'll give up Clarke to get him.

Kings do not need 29-year-old player who wants long and expensive contract.
They will contend in 2 years maybe, not now.

 

[kinghock]

Your 10th ranked prospect and your 7th round pick sounds fair.

Kings do not need 29-year-old player who wants long and expensive contract.

There is no good reason to trade for him.

 

[beachcomber]

From the Leafs it probably takes
2022 1st + Liljegren + Knies
I wouldnt pay that knowing hes ufa the next year.

Yup, bunch of junk from the Leafs as usual. Not happeneing.

 

[Cancuks]

Miller 50% for Whitecloud, Brisson & Dorofeyev

 

[Cogburn]

How many forwards does Vancouver have better than Nylander in your estimation?

Three and Boeser, who if he rebounds will be there too.

 

[Aqualung]

Kings do not need 29-year-old player who wants long and expensive contract.

There is no good reason to trade for him.

Could have said that rather than list players that in all likelihood aren’t really pieces as valuable as Miller.

 

[VT]

core pieces coming back that addresses Vancouver's needs would be

LA - Mikey Anderson. ______then Fagemo, Clarke, ...Kirsanov interesting, not so sold on Turcotte anymore compared to what itll cost to acquire him.
Nashville - Jeannot, Fabbro
Colorado - Newhook, after heavy consultation with medical staff Byram.
Florida - Weegar? Lundell ...one can dream
Columbus - Peeke, Sillinger, Marchenko is interesting

Columbus would never trade Sillinger and probably Marchenko too. Especially for 29 years player. Jarmo isn't a drug addict. And at all, Sillinger is untouchable.

 

[Gstank]

Vancouver isn't getting what they think he's worth due to being a rental when teams didn't when he wasn't one

Considering Lundqvist, 2022 1st and Chytil didnt move the needle enough to move him this year. I would assume the return is going to be a but bigger then what you are thinking

 

[Diamonddog01]

Columbus would never trade Sillinger and probably Marchenko too. Especially for 29 years player. Jarmo isn't a drug addict. And at all, Sillinger is untouchable.

Maybe Peeke and the 6th?

 

[wintersej]

So Carlo, Lysell, Frederic for Miller+? Not terrible depending on what the + is. But I would imagine they'll be looking for an offer that includes either a more dynamic defenseman or a young center instead of a winger in Lysell.

Yeah I’m not sure if Lysell makes sense for either side. Lorhei doesn’t make sense for Vancouver either, I don’t think. I would assume they would prefer Beecher over Frederic. But Carlo + Beecher + something… I don’t know what the something is the Bruins can do unless they can move DeBrusk for a 1st to dangle.

Considering Lundqvist, 2022 1st and Chytil didnt move the needle enough to move him this year. I would assume the return is going to be a but bigger then what you are thinking

It didn’t move the needle because they were close to the playoffs and they knew they could get offers of that quality over the summer, I would wager. Doesn’t mean a winning offer would be more than that.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Miller 50% for Whitecloud, Brisson & Dorofeyev

How is Vegas fitting this into their cap? They are already in cap hell. We’d be taking dadonov back or something silly.