Rumor: Matheson Maybe? Horny - Hold On!

[Honour Over Glory]

This deal ain't nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be.

It's not about the value. Matheson could likely rebound with Marino on the 2nd pair and provide a better PMD support to the blueline in general than Schultz did his last 2yrs and Pettersson ever f***ing will.

It's about emotion, mate. We all loved Hornqvist and his never ending amount of energy and ability to give 100% literally every game, even while he's held together with glue and torn t-shirts. It's a decent hockey deal, no doubt, but it still stings because there's a ton of us that are big fans of Hornqvist and for me personally, I just hope he gets used in the top 6 where he belongs, I suspect he will get that opportunity over Acciari in their top 6 and if Dadonov signs elsewhere, he'll for sure remain in their top 6.

He was being wasted on a 3rd line that the coaching staff could never settle on.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Why does a six year commitment matter? Like I have yet to see why this matters especially given a crowd is saying our window is done regardless in a few years.

Because his contract will be an anchor in accelerating the rebuild. It's not an asset. It's a lead weight.

 

[DesertPenguin]

If McCann and Bleuger take steps forward, could be a decent third line, but not a great third line. If this is what they're rolling out I'd want something more than ZAR-Lafferty-Sciveor as the fourth line.

Preference would be to add a better RW to that line.

Say hello to Sam Poulin. I think you're going to like him.

 

[Gurglesons]

Because his contract will be an anchor in accelerating the rebuild. It's not an asset. It's a lead weight.

The Penguins are not rebuilding until 25-26.

Hornqvist's contract like Kessel's was soon to be an anchor.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Man, have a little self respect. Minimum 150k a year for your services.

It'll only be in credit to JR's favorite Chinese Take-out restaurant.

 

[JackFr]

The Penguins are not rebuilding until 25-26.

Hornqvist's contract like Kessel's was soon to be an anchor.

Ok, then the contract will be an anchor when we're still competing. Either way.

 

[Empoleon8771]

It's not about the value. Matheson could likely rebound with Marino on the 2nd pair and provide a better PMD support to the blueline in general than Schultz did his last 2yrs and Pettersson ever f***ing will.

It's about emotion, mate. We all loved Hornqvist and his never ending amount of energy and ability to give 100% literally every game, even while he's held together with glue and torn t-shirts. It's a decent hockey deal, no doubt, but it still stings because there's a ton of us that are big fans of Hornqvist and for me personally, I just hope he gets used in the top 6 where he belongs, I suspect he will get that opportunity over Acciari in their top 6 and if Dadonov signs elsewhere, he'll for sure remain in their top 6.

He was being wasted on a 3rd line that the coaching staff could never settle on.

If people were arguing that, I wouldn't make that point. But people are saying it's bad value for Hornqvist. It's not, they traded an average middle-6 forward for a good bottom-6 forward and a high risk, high reward defenseman.

 

[Shrimper]

So we're saying goodbye to a d man

 

[Headshot77]

Because his contract will be an anchor in accelerating the rebuild. It's not an asset. It's a lead weight.

Maybe he will be our tank commander in 2024

 

[Gurglesons]

Ok, then the contract will be an anchor when we're still competing. Either way.

So we should have just kept Hornqvist and signed Tanev which was where indications were going?

I get that Matheson is a bottom pairing D, but doesn't his skill set provide more of what the Penguins need right now than Hornqvist?

 

[HandshakeLine]

I didn't really love Hornqvist beyond my unconditional Penguins love, but this board has weird daddy complexes sometimes.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

The Penguins are not rebuilding until 25-26.

Hornqvist's contract like Kessel's was soon to be an anchor.

Nah Hornqvist coulda scored 20 goals again and had improved PPP's with Reirden taking over. Still quite serviceable.

And maybe the rebuild is in 25-26. If you're from the future and know that for sure, then thanks for the info. But in 2020 we don't have that tech yet, to my knowledge.

 

[Jobeycool]

Other teams are hit severely worse with contracts......Look at CapFreindly at the GoldenKnights....They have massive problems and Maple Leafs have 3 players signed for 10 + million per season...Ridiculous

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Because his contract will be an anchor in accelerating the rebuild. It's not an asset. It's a lead weight.

The Penguins are not rebuilding until 25-26.

Hornqvist's contract like Kessel's was soon to be an anchor.

Because if he doesn’t improve here or god forbid gets worse it becomes impossible to move. Cap ain’t exactly going up either in the near future either.

 

[MayorofWBS]

We're going to trade him to Minnesota for Kaapo, Kaprizov, and the rights to future novels written by Marcus Foligno about being a f***ing legend, mate.

Now you've done it!!!! That PITA Minny poster is going to be here any second now.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I didn't really love Hornqvist beyond my unconditional Penguins love, but this board has weird daddy complexes sometimes.

That makes no sense at all to me. The guy emptied the tank more than any Penguin in history.

Where is the dislike button?

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Florida fan:
Matheson is risky, but his upper level talent is great. Hope he turns it around.

Be happy with Sceviour: he's a great 4RW that can play anywhere in the lineup in the pinch. There were times we had him on the first and second line and he wasn't visibly terrible. Great PKer too: he usually played on our top pairing. I'm guessing he was part of the trade for some money reasons (we have some prospects who can take his place) and because he is a great PKer who adds value for your team

Don't really get the point of Sceviour since we've already got a bunch of guys who can do what he does. We needed a replacement for Hornqvist on the 3rd line, not a guy who can battle it out with ZAR as the worst offensive forward on the roster.

 

[Gurglesons]

Because if he doesn’t improve here or god forbid gets worse it becomes impossible to move. Cap ain’t exactly going up either in the near future either.

Hornqvist's contract was going to be impossible to move..

 

[HandshakeLine]

That makes no sense at all to me. The guy emptied the tank more than any Penguin in history.

Where is the dislike button?

He tried really hard. So does JJ apparently.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Florida fan:
Matheson is risky, but his upper level talent is great. Hope he turns it around.

Be happy with Sceviour: he's a great 4RW that can play anywhere in the lineup in the pinch. There were times we had him on the first and second line and he wasn't visibly terrible. Great PKer too: he usually played on our top pairing. I'm guessing he was part of the trade for some money reasons (we have some prospects who can take his place) and because he is a great PKer who adds value for your team

Aston-Reese is out for some time, he's been apart of a solid 4th line and Sceviour and his defensive game and handedness fit on the 4th line which allows Tanev to move to the LW with Blueger at C. He's a solid player, have a mate that's a Stars fanboy, used to talk up Sceviour like some stud player (which never materialized as we can see).

 

[PensandCaps]

This deal ain't nearly as bad as some of you make it out to be.

You said the same after the JJ signing

 

[Speaking Moistly]

He tried really hard. So does JJ apparently.

Can you never compare those two players again? Thanks.

 

[Gurglesons]

Don't really get the point of Sceviour since we've already got a bunch of guys who can do what he does. We needed a replacement for Hornqvist on the 3rd line, not a guy who can battle it out with ZAR as the worst offensive forward on the roster.

Tanev was always going to be that replacement.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

I didn't really love Hornqvist beyond my unconditional Penguins love, but this board has weird daddy complexes sometimes.

Hornqvist was the most overrated Penguins player since the 05 lockout aside from that one skinny French-Canadian goalie with a big smile.

 

[KIRK]

Can a moderator please lock this up. @BHD . . . @Scandale du Jour . . . @ColePens (if still alive)

I just posted a confirmed trade thread.