Prospect Info: Marlies and Prospects Discussion - 2018/19 Edition IV

[Dr Quincy]

Durzi with 2 goals from the point on the pp today.

 

[SprDaVE]

Worth a flyer. Will the Leafs also be signing Woll in the offseason? Not sure how well the Kaskisuo experiment has gone in the AHL, so maybe it's time to turn it over to a new group.

Apparently they will.

 

[Mr Hockey]

I'm an armchair GM/Scout (I do enjoy watching the Marlies), and you can throw his goals/assists at me all day but by my eye test he has not been impressive (other than his great shot). He doesn't drive plays, doesn't forecheck well (even tho he is a power forward), and just generally isn't involved in the play.

Yes I get he is young and he still has time to develop but that doesn't change the fact I've not been impressed by Grundstrom this year. There is still a ton of hockey left and there is always next year to make a better impression

Grundstrom, I'm sure was told to learn how to be a good two-way player, grind and be a good net-front presence. Don't expect him to be a high scoring player. i bet the Leafs would like him to evolve into a skilled Hyman type player.

 

[smitty10]

Grundstrom, I'm sure was told to learn how to be a good two-way player, grind and be a good net-front presence. Don't expect him to be a high scoring player. i bet the Leafs would like him to evolve into a skilled Hyman type player.

Hyman does things right, but can be frustrating to watch because of his lack of skill. If Grundstrom can bring together those two elements he will be a hell of a player.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Hyman does things right, but can be frustrating to watch because of his lack of skill. If Grundstrom can bring together those two elements he will be a hell of a player.

He is trending that way, he is fast and gives max effort every shift I see him play on the Marlies, I always notice him during the games. He would do well on Tavares or Matthews LW

 

[Walshy7]

Apparently they will.

Thought I read ncaa season finishes in March? Could be in a few marlies games this season. Just have to dump one of these extra guys we have hopefully. Hopefully one of sparks/Hutchison gets taken of waivers when the time comes

 

[LeafChief]

 

[LeafChief]

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Just saw that since Bouthillier was traded to St.Johns, he is 2-0 with a 1.78 GAA and a .932 sv%.

Nice to see.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

Just saw that since Bouthillier was traded to St.Johns, he is 2-0 with a 1.78 GAA and a .932 sv%.

Nice to see.

It's a good program going through a heavy rebuilding year. He has a chance to have a big overage year and build some confidence before heading to newfoundland.

 

[deletethis]

Just saw that since Bouthillier was traded to St.Johns, he is 2-0 with a 1.78 GAA and a .932 sv%.

Nice to see.

Quite a short term achievement considering that Saint John has averaged over 5 goals against this season.

 

[SprDaVE]

This zone entry from Durzi was top notch. A lot of players would have just dumped that puck in the corner, especially a defenseman. Should be fun to see him and Hollowel translate to the AHL next season.

 

[Stringer Bell]

Less and less of a fan of this Korshkov pick as time goes on.

 

[SprDaVE]

Less and less of a fan of this Korshkov pick as time goes on.

Hard to be excited about a prospect that has 45 points in his last 96 KHL games... in 3 years. He'll be 23 in July.

The guy that put up two 50 goal CHL seasons BEFORE his draft and then went on to score over a GOAL A GAME after the draft was right there... but nope. Now he's a 21 year old winger putting up 38 points in 47 NHL games this season.

I hope that's a lesson for Marky Mark.

 

[7even]

Anyone know the story on Rasanen? Last I checked he had played in 6 games, which was a few months ago. EP still shows him at...6 games. Has he seriously been healthy scratched the entire season??

 

[SprDaVE]

Anyone know the story on Rasanen? Last I checked he had played in 6 games, which was a few months ago. EP still shows him at...6 games. Has he seriously been healthy scratched the entire season??

Injured I think? But probably a mix of healthy scratch and injured.

 

[member 147413]

Rasanen and Korshkov are busts as far as I’m concerned. I have not faith in either of them playing for the Marlies, let alone the Leafs.

 

[Mr Hockey]

Rasanen and Korshkov are busts as far as I’m concerned. I have not faith in either of them playing for the Marlies, let alone the Leafs.

Korshkov has been playing in the KHL since he was 19 and he plays on Russias 2nd national team, Rasanen should have been at the WJU20 a couple weeks ago, you should just wait and see

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Rasanen and Korshkov are busts as far as I’m concerned. I have not faith in either of them playing for the Marlies, let alone the Leafs.

Both are good enough for the Marlies right now, and Korshkov will likely be on the team next year.

Too early to call Rasanen a bust. He's still our best large defenseman in our system by far.

 

[Moonman]

korshkov was injured and out for like 50 games. I'm pretty sure he'll be coming to north america after his season in russia is finished.

 

[Fogelhund]

Rasanen and Korshkov are busts as far as I’m concerned. I have not faith in either of them playing for the Marlies, let alone the Leafs.

Having Dubas go out and see them personally last week, shows that they value these prospects pretty highly, so had they had someone in the organization, with as much clarity, and knowledge on the subject as you, they could have saved that time and money. Disappointed you hadn't let them know sooner.

 

[member 147413]

Having Dubas go out and see them personally last week, shows that they value these prospects pretty highly, so had they had someone in the organization, with as much clarity, and knowledge on the subject as you, they could have saved that time and money. Disappointed you hadn't let them know sooner.

I’m glad Dubas is doing his due diligence with prospects overseas, that’s not an issue with me. However both have seen no progression, or even regression in Rasanen’s case and I have little faith either put it all together.

Your smart ass attitude doesn’t change the fact that both players have been underwhelming even considering injuries.

 

[member 147413]

Both are good enough for the Marlies right now, and Korshkov will likely be on the team next year.

Too early to call Rasanen a bust. He's still our best large defenseman in our system by far.

Rasanen is certainly not good enough for the AHL, he does not think the game fast enough.

Korshkov likely is, but he’s so far behind and missed crucial development time that I don’t see him being impactful.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Rasanen is certainly not good enough for the AHL, he does not think the game fast enough.

Korshkov likely is, but he’s so far behind and missed crucial development time that I don’t see him being impactful.

Rasanen would be a better version of Nielsen in the AHL. Nielsen was nothing specatcular, and his hockey IQ was definitely the main thing holding him back, but Rasanen has better skating, better reach, and even better IQ at this point than I think Nielsen ever did. Is Nielsen exactly a sparkling comparison? No. However even Nielsen still has enough there to be good enough for the AHL, and Rasanen has all of that and more.

That being said, it's all a moot point because he's not even going to be in the AHL for another year and a half at the earliest. His IQ issues to me do not make him out to be someone who does not have a mind for the game, but rather someone who needs more experience and strong coaching... Which is why going to the KHL was a great decision for him.

He's not going to challenge for a Leafs job for a while, but the time he will be ready will be about the time the Leafs are going to need RD to replace Zaitsev and whomever else we have in the NHL besides Liljegren. He's going to be in the mix with Lindgren, Durzi and Hollowell, and between those 4, there really should be no concern with the RD depth going forward...