Marleau worth every penny

[taurine330]

Probably doesn't really care about the regular season. Think about it, he's made the playoffs every single year with San Jose and then with the Leafs. It's meaningless to him mentally

Playoffs is where it matters and probably when he'll start to care and you'll notice a big improvement in his game

I never realized but he has been only left outside the playoffs twice in his long long career.

 

[Menzinger]

Considering his NMC, crossing our fingers and hoping he randomly gets better in the playoffs is likely all we can do at the moment. Unfortunately I’m not too confident that’s going to work: he’s had an amazing career but there’s no getting around old age. And for a pro hockey player, he’s ancient at this point

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Honestly, at this point I'm not sure where Marleau would fit in on a LW depth chart based on merit. I'd probably have both Leivo and Hyman above him, and given the same chance I wouldn't be surprised to see Johnsson outperform him too. He's become an absolute passenger on that line. He was significantly better last year, and even that was a season where you could see clear signs of aging.

Let’s not throw stones after 8 freaking games...

 

[Leafslet]

Considering his NMC, crossing our fingers and hoping he randomly gets better in the playoffs is likely all we can do at the moment. Unfortunately I’m not too confident that’s going to work: he’s had an amazing career but there’s no getting around old age. And for a pro hockey player, he’s ancient at this point

he did last season.

 

[socko]

A deal is a deal. Leafs gave it out. Live with the consequences. Learn from it.

 

[LeafsHome]

A deal is a deal. Leafs gave it out. Live with the consequences. Learn from it.

He must be proud not earning even a penny of his salary. If he doesn't retire next July then he's a total pos

 

[Menzinger]

he did last season.

He did play well lastblayoffs. But he also looked much better during the regular season than he has so far.

It’s early days still but he does look like he’s lost a step out there

 

[Polaris1010]

Marleau is doing what he is suppose to be doing on that line, and that is to be a safety blanket for the two youngsters.

Watch the game. Every time the first line is scored upon, Marleau is in position while either Matthews or Kapanen was late coming back or just not there.

But like who cares? That line has been winning games.

This is the NHL. Even security blankets cost money.

Lets face the obvious facts too.

Who are the Leafs two best power forwards? The two free agents.

 

[Menzinger]

You’re overrating Marleau’s defensive impact imo.

He’s fine, but he’s not much better than average at his point in his career

 

[Polaris1010]

You’re overrating Marleau’s defensive impact imo.

He’s fine, but he’s not much better than average at his point in his career

The coach may not agree with you.

Myself would rather see the Marleau - Kadri - Marner line again.

But that is a coaching decision.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Let’s not throw stones after 8 freaking games...

It’s the 40 years that concerns us. Not the 8 games.

 

[Boutette]

A deal is a deal. Leafs gave it out. Live with the consequences. Learn from it.

But it wasn't a deal made by the current GM. And if our current GM can correct this mistake made by the previous GM even if he has to squirm his way out of it, all the more power to him. Fact is, it is not a net benefit to the team next year to keep Marleau as we have stars to pay a defense that needs improving and players making $1 mil that could replace him, so all due effort to make his cap hit go away should be seriously considered along with any other issue standing in the Leafs way of icing the best possible team to challenge for the cup. Other teams have done the same thing when push came to shove and weren't criticized for it a whit (Detroit with Datsyuk, Chicago with Hossa among many others), no reason why it shouldn't be a tool in the current management's arsenal as well to be used if need be.

 

[LeafsHome]

But it wasn't a deal made by the current GM. And if our current GM can correct this mistake made by the previous GM even if he has to squirm his way out of it, all the more power to him. Fact is, it is not a net benefit to the team next year to keep Marleau as we have stars to pay a defense that needs improving and players making $1 mil that could replace him, so all due effort to make his cap hit go away should be seriously considered along with any other issue standing in the Leafs way of icing the best possible team to challenge for the cup. Other teams have done the same thing when push came to shove and weren't criticized for it a whit (Detroit with Datsyuk, Chicago with Hossa among many others), no reason why it shouldn't be a tool in the current management's arsenal as well to be used if need be.

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do - f Betman

 

[Nylanderthal]

Yes, but the NHL investigated it.

Dont know if the Leafs would be able to get away with something like that.

What makes Washington special? If each step is executed above board and by the rules then why not? Moves like this would actually be good for the game. It allows rich teams to utilize the cba to keep their teams together and poor teams to artificially reach the floor

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

Who are the Leafs two best power forwards?

The Leafs have power forwards?

 

[cookie]

Let’s not throw stones after 8 freaking games...

Uhhh it's not 8 games



Yes his role's changed, and yes he's older, but he's a shell of his former self.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Uhhh it's not 8 games



Yes his role's changed, and yes he's older, but he's a shell of his former self.

Well we all knew it was gonna be risk. It’s done next year, long term it isn’t a huge issue.

 

[Kiwi]

Well we all knew it was gonna be risk. It’s done next year, long term it isn’t a huge issue.

That 6.25M is going to be an absolute noose next offseason when hopefully Nylander Marner and Matthews are getting paid, that's not even counting all the other guys needing new deals

Our D sucks and we're going to have to let one of our best defenseman walk because we can't afford him and are still paying that other passenger

I hated the Marleau deal at the time and I ******* hate it even more now

 

[drewjenks]

It’s the 40 years that concerns us. Not the 8 games.

He's looked pretty good over 40 years though.

 

[drewjenks]

That 6.25M is going to be an absolute noose next offseason when hopefully Nylander Marner and Matthews are getting paid, that's not even counting all the other guys needing new deals

Our D sucks and we're going to have to let one of our best defenseman walk because we can't afford him and are still paying that other passenger

I hated the Marleau deal at the time and I ******* hate it even more now

We can (and hopefully will) Orpik his contract.

Step 1 = Trade him for an immediate buyout (we'd need to add a pick / prospect).
Step 2 = Immediately re-sign him to a 1-year contract (he's still up money at 700k).
Step 3 = $5,550,000 in cap-savings (with Marleau still happily in Toronto).

Washington did it with Orpik this year (hence the name).

 

[Kiwi]

We can (and hopefully will) Orpik his contract.

Step 1 = Trade him for an immediate buyout (we'd need to add a pick / prospect).
Step 2 = Immediately re-sign him to a 1-year contract (he's still up money at 700k).

Washington did it with Orpik this year (hence the name).

He's got a full NMC, unless he agrees nobody is doing anything with him and unless he wins a cup this season I don't see why he'd agree

 

[LeafShark]

We can (and hopefully will) Orpik his contract.

Step 1 = Trade him for an immediate buyout (we'd need to add a pick / prospect).
Step 2 = Immediately re-sign him to a 1-year contract (he's still up money at 700k).
Step 3 = $5,550,000 in cap-savings (with Marleau still happily in Toronto).

Washington did it with Orpik this year (hence the name).

Marleau is a marginal player on this great Leafs team. Johnson and Hyman are about on par with Marleau now and Lindholm/Gauthier are grittier. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if we could simply just trade away his salary.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

That 6.25M is going to be an absolute noose next offseason when hopefully Nylander Marner and Matthews are getting paid, that's not even counting all the other guys needing new deals

Our D sucks and we're going to have to let one of our best defenseman walk because we can't afford him and are still paying that other passenger

I hated the Marleau deal at the time and I ******* hate it even more now

Jake Gardiner long-term at 6 mil is not a great idea either...

 

[34]

Dubas/Shanny are going to have to bury Marleau on Robidas island next season. He can not produce anymore and the team desperately needs that $6.25M in Cap space.

 

[drewjenks]

He's got a full NMC, unless he agrees nobody is doing anything with him and unless he wins a cup this season I don't see why he'd agree

Use your head Kiwi.

We are trading Marleau plus an asset specifically so another will buy him out for us.

Then we will immediately re-sign him.

There's literally 0% chance he leaves Toronto (he wouldn't even get on a plane).

And he's guaranteed to make more money than his original $4,250,000.

His buyout salary would be $3,800,000 & league minimum is $700,000.

Toronto: You wan't to stay in Toronto, help the team & make more money?
Marleau: No f*** you Dubas.