McKenzie: Mark Stone Mega-Thread Pt. 2 - Jets pursuing Stone, Ottawa working on contract extension

[God King Fudge]

Don't see how it skyrocketed. Probably a similar deal they got for Duchene, with more higher end prospects.

They likely just removed 2 of the biggest trade targets from the market? It doesn't make sense for Columbus to go all in and get Duchene as a rental and then turn around and trade away a better player in Panarin. With Panarin staying, that's a huge wing target off the market, increasing the value of Stone, who's the best one available.

 

[Magic Mittens]

Ottawa should trade Stone to Dallas for a similar Duchene trade. Then Ottawa has a chance at two firsts from teams that could miss the playoffs lol

Unlikely either miss the playoffs, but you never know

 

[Korpse]

Abramov is a prospect, davidsson is an overager.

Davidsson is a 21 year old prospect who made a good impression this past training camp. Similar to Mason Appleton he was drafted as an overager.

 

[SensFactor]

Stone is going to Nashville or Jets. Book it.

If it's the Jets, its going to be same or better return. I'm just guessing, but it COULD be:
Jets 1st, conditional first, Roslovic, Vesalainen

 

[MardyBum]

Stone is going to Nashville or Jets. Book it.

If it's the Jets, its going to be same or better return. I'm just guessing, but it COULD be:
Jets 1st, conditional first, Roslovic, Vesalainen

Roslovic + Vesalainen >>>>>>>>>>>> Abramov and Davidsson.

Lets not get crazy here lol.

 

[CaptBrannigan]

Think some need to pump the brakes a little on Stone here. Makes any contender the favorite? As good as ‘10 Kovalchuk? Trade deadline making some of you crazy. I don’t see how he’s the end all, be all that he’s seemingly grown into over the last few weeks of speculation.

 

[SensFactor]

Davidsson is a 21 year old prospect who made a good impression this past training camp. Similar to Mason Appleton he was drafted as an overager.

I wish they would have got Liam Foudy instead, but it is what it is.

 

[SensFactor]

Roslovic + Vesalainen >>>>>>>>>>>> Abramov and Davidsson.

Lets not get crazy here lol.

Stone is >>>> Duchene. Can I get a little crazy bro?

 

[Jets]

If it's the Jets, its going to be same or better return. I'm just guessing, but it COULD be:
Jets 1st, conditional first, Roslovic, Vesalainen

Yes, Marijuana is legal now.

 

[God King Fudge]

Stone is going to Nashville or Jets. Book it.

If it's the Jets, its going to be same or better return. I'm just guessing, but it COULD be:
Jets 1st, conditional first, Roslovic, Vesalainen

Yeah that's an absolutely insane return. His value has gone up, but not that much lol.

 

[MardyBum]

Stone is >>>> Duchene. Can I get a little crazy bro?

You can, but you're just setting yourself up for disappointment

 

[preds1]

Stone is going to Nashville or Jets. Book it.

If it's the Jets, its going to be same or better return. I'm just guessing, but it COULD be:
Jets 1st, conditional first, Roslovic, Vesalainen

I don't see NSH emptying a somewhat thin cupboard and 2 firsts for a rental. Poile will probably look at lower tier guys.

 

[tntkid]

Stone is going to Nashville or Jets. Book it.

If it's the Jets, its going to be same or better return. I'm just guessing, but it COULD be:
Jets 1st, conditional first, Roslovic, Vesalainen

It seems like if Winnipeg has any interest in a player that Vegass will go after them.

Stone could end up in Vegass.

 

[Pongs21]

They likely just removed 2 of the biggest trade targets from the market? It doesn't make sense for Columbus to go all in and get Duchene as a rental and then turn around and trade away a better player in Panarin. With Panarin staying, that's a huge wing target off the market, increasing the value of Stone, who's the best one available.

so what, 3 1sts and all A prospects?
IMO, He'll get a 1st, conditional 1st and 2 prospects that are considered better than what CBJ gave up.

 

[SensFactor]

Yeah that's an absolutely insane return. His value has gone up, but not that much lol.

It's crazy no doubt! Nothing set in "Stone" yet

 

[Hunter368]

Abramov and Davidsson isn't all that far off Appleton and Stanley. If both are C level prospects then so is Stanley, who you seem to value.

You will notice my comments were not directed at your last demand/suggestion, it was directed at some of the others demanding Laine or Vesalainen & Roslovic & 1st etc. Guys like Appleton & Stanley would be in play as I stated before, but nothing in the Duchene return is close to Roslovic or Vesalainen or Niku.

 

[SensFactor]

I don't see NSH emptying a somewhat thin cupboard and 2 firsts for a rental. Poile will probably look at lower tier guys.

We have a Dzingel too.

 

[Martin Skoula]

For all the talk of Stone making a team an "instant cup favorite", it's weird how he only got 8 points in 19 games through that ECF run.

 

[Korpse]

You will notice my comments were not directed at your last demand/suggestion, it was directed at some of the others demanding Laine or Vesalainen & Roslovic & 1st etc. Guys like Appleton & Stanley would be in play as I stated before, but nothing in the Duchene return is close to Roslovic or Vesalainen or Niku.

Fair enough. There's not a lot of productive discussion on either side.

 

[Hemsky4pm2]

Jets first, 3rd, Roslovic and a b D prospect is what I'd expect Stone to go for.

Doubt the deal would include provisions for Stone resigning. Pure rental.

 

[wintersej]

Ok so Duchene got 1st and 2 B prospects. And another 1st IF he re-signs.

I would think Stone would go for similar, but with better B prospects attached.

 

[Whileee]

Abramov and Davidsson isn't all that far off Appleton and Stanley. If both are C level prospects then so is Stanley, who you seem to value.

Appleton is an NHLer who was an AHL first-team All-Star as a rookie last year. Davidsson was 6th round pick as a 20-year old. Stanley was a 1st rounder who has made very good strides as an AHL rookie. Appleton + Stanley >> Abramov + Davidsson, in my view.

 

[inthe6ix]

Ok so Duchene got 1st and 2 B prospects. And another 1st IF he re-signs.

I would think Stone would go for similar, but with better B prospects attached.

Are you suggesting Stone is better than Duchene? Because unless you're playing fantasy, C's are more valuable than wingers. I like Stone a lot, but don't think he'll return as big a haul - guess we'll see.

 

[Hunter368]

Stone is going to Nashville or Jets. Book it.

If it's the Jets, its going to be same or better return. I'm just guessing, but it COULD be:
Jets 1st, conditional first, Roslovic, Vesalainen

That’s not even remotely similar to the Duchene return.

 

[pucka lucka]

1st, Vesa, Chisolm, conditional 1st