Speculation: Makar point total projection for 2019-2020 season
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What? He does? News to me...
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EscapedGoat
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I wonder what it's like going through life being wrong about every single thing that comes out of your mouth?
Must be a strange existence.
Must be a strange existence.
I'm placing 40 points as an expectation. Which kind of seems unfair almost. Expecting anything more isn't accounting for wear and tear over his first NHL season playing 20 minutes a night. Especially with teams game planning for him.
I can see it being a mixed bag of a season when it comes to production, but a good overall total. Hard to argue against a 59 point pace in the playoffs of all things while seeing less minutes and not running PP1.
Lots of reasons for optimism, but as much of a fan boy as I am. I'm not placing generational rookie D expectations on the kid lol.
Also Girard needs to get closer to 40 points next year IMO. He is actually one that we need to see another step from. He will still be valuable if not, but the guy has stepped up and produced when Barrie was injured. As we seen with MacK, sometime when you remove the guy above them the younger player steps up to the task. Girard has done that for stretches. I'm hoping he can again. I think there will be times when you see Girard and Makar switched up on the PP units just due to PP struggles and young defender struggles.
I mean Byram (if he sticks) and Makar running PP2 wouldn't be the end of the world.
I can see it being a mixed bag of a season when it comes to production, but a good overall total. Hard to argue against a 59 point pace in the playoffs of all things while seeing less minutes and not running PP1.
Lots of reasons for optimism, but as much of a fan boy as I am. I'm not placing generational rookie D expectations on the kid lol.
Also Girard needs to get closer to 40 points next year IMO. He is actually one that we need to see another step from. He will still be valuable if not, but the guy has stepped up and produced when Barrie was injured. As we seen with MacK, sometime when you remove the guy above them the younger player steps up to the task. Girard has done that for stretches. I'm hoping he can again. I think there will be times when you see Girard and Makar switched up on the PP units just due to PP struggles and young defender struggles.
I mean Byram (if he sticks) and Makar running PP2 wouldn't be the end of the world.
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50 points would indeed be generational. That mark hasn’t been hit by a rookie defenceman since 1992.
There have been a few players close in the high 40’s who I would say are not as highly touted as Makar, but it hasn’t been done in a long time. I think he gets there because of the his skill, the opportunity for lots of minutes, and the overall talent around him.
But, I’m not going to scoff at anyone who doesn’t think he can hit the mark, because it would be an incredible achievement for a rookie.
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Tbh I don't really see Girard as a consistent 40 point guy. More in the 30s with solid D play and puck movement.
Foxtail
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Coughs up the puck a lot in his own end is soft as butter, gets beat wide a lot , doesn't tie up his man in front of the net , he's not a great skater and a bit slow laterally, slow footed . Not impressed with him.
Foppberg
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You're either a brilliant troll, or on acid 24 hours a day.
Foxtail
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13'14 was -23
14'15 was +3
15'16 was -14
16'17 was +6
17'18 was +10
18'19 was +1
-17 for his career and the first 2.5 seasons were with a good Nashville team he was -25
He's always had question marks about his defensive play , that's why he was traded. Wouldn't be surprised to see him moved again soon
Watched a lot of Columbus playoff games this past year and he had several bad gaffes.
All you have to do is watch him play, he lacks mobility, strength and desire and won't get himself in shape, still has the baby flab
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Foxtail
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He's bad defensively bud , simple as that it's a weakness in his game. Poile flipped him because of this. If this wasn't the case he would never have been traded .
-25 on a solid Trotz coached team tells it all and then shipped out.
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EscapedGoat
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Those are some pretty impressive, in-depth stats you found there. Plus-minus is known as one of the best stats out there to judge players defensive abilities.
I'm sold. He sucks defensively.
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For real. I love Mcavoy and he’s one of my favorite young Dmen in the league but I genuinely don’t think there’s more than 5/6 dmen better than Jones right now. And all the ones that are better than Jones are closer to 30 than 20, unlike Jones.
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At first, this sounds awesome... by day 4 or 5, sounds f terrifying.
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From what I've been told it is terrifying right from the start.
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Foppberg
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I used to have a wart on my finger when I was a kid for years. I still go to feel it sometimes only to feel a normal index finger.
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On my big toe I had a massive wart that needed to be frozen off many times. The type of wart in Jones' defensive game.
When I want to argue about a players defensive game, +/- is my go to stat as well because it is the most reliable and clearly defined stat available.
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