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If I was Hall, I would've "MacT gif'd" into the locker room after yesterday's game and told everyone to smarten up.
pts or not he's -6 and his been owned on the year.
Got his lunch money stolen last night as well. By players that he ought to be better than.
still... leading the team in scoring and still is going at PPG pace..
if he has another "outlier 8 seconds" he would be 2nd in NHL in scoring.
Not saying that he has been great but he isnt THE issue on this team.
Because the losing doesn't REALLY suck.
A team that keeps stating it hates losing that keeps losing and admits to coming out in multiple games flat. We're 8 games into the season and we're seeing a club coming out flat already.
You know that boredom and dread people have started to develop watching these performances? Looks like some of the players have it to.
I don't buy that this losing gig is all that hard. They're making it look easy..
Interesting narrative. I don't buy it for a second.
Either way I don't see why this should have it's own thread. Can't it go in one of the other 417 complaining about stuff?
Isn't he part of it?
Star players should help clubs win games. Last night is a case in point in this regard. One teams star players getting the result, the other club walking out empty handed again. AT some point you only run as your stars are taking you. Right now Hall is even taking us to holding his own. Which is a significant part of the problem.
One of the problems on this club is theres actually arguably too many stars and this affords them to look towards others to get it done. No such luxury with the islanders.
You think Eberle is really busted up over any of this? or J Schultz, or Hall? They have the best gigs in the world and know it.
I'm starting to question whether all the players on this club even WANT to make the playoffs. Might interfere with leisure time on the beach.
heh, I'm starting to remember why I never start threads anymore. this back and forth takes time. lol
Isles were 2-4 and we were 1-5 .. Ovy's team was 1-4 when they played us...
Unlike the other 2, Hall is not the captain .. He is only 1 pt back of both tavares and Ovy in scoring.
Sorry but I just dont see the point of this thread..
The guy said it sucks to lose and ppl have issues... I guess he shouldve said he doesnt mind losing..
You think Eberle is really busted up over any of this? or J Schultz, or Hall? They have the best gigs in the world and know it.
I'm starting to question whether all the players on this club even WANT to make the playoffs. Might interfere with leisure time on the beach.
heh, I'm starting to remember why I never start threads anymore. this back and forth takes time. lol
I 100% think the players hate this. They have been competing at the highest levels their lives. To think otherwise demonstrates what appears to be a complete lack of understanding of human nature.
However, you can create whatever storyline you feel you must to get through this difficult time as a fan. If people want to believe that the team has been infested with alien bodies and are bringing about an evil plan to take over Sherwood Park and that's a way of coping with the losing then they can have at it.
I just don't see why we need yet another thread on conspiracy theories and psychological analysis of players based on their media scrums.
i know quite a number of KHL players. many of them (even some widely considered stars in this league) aren't that high on winning. most don't watch any hockey, don't think much about other teams or players. i've heard some outright stating that one has had a career once set money-wise.
there really are people that don't have much fight in them, nor they aspire to being the best. some just have it as a given. i may be terribly off with my point as i don't know squat about Canadian players' mentality, but i think that people are much alike all over the world. you need to be a special combination of talent and ambition to become a perennial star, but you can become just a star, being blessed with only one of those.
there really are players who don't care about winning. i'm not implying that's the case with our young guns as i don't know any of them in person, but i'll go as far as saying there is a chance.
Bit of a pathetic thread.
All I will say is actions speak louder than words and from Replacement's comments it would appear all he has done so far is look at the standings and read (not even listen where you might actually get some context as opposed to the media filter on the written word) the post game interviews and not watch a single game.
I was at the game last night, I was 30 feet from where Hall scored those goals. I watched the effort all night and about the only ones who looked like they did not care were the ones who should be battling for that big contract, JShultz and Yakupov (the friggin' Ice Girls skated harder than Nail last night and I am a fan of his but if I were Hall I would take him aside ala Messier and tell him that if he does not start working a bit harder he will have his teammates respect to worry about and not just the coach's).
But sure, like was said above, let's just go back to cliches and not worry about what they really think. I am certain Hall is not "ok" with losing and I guarantee you he works as hard at his job as anyone on these boards and a lot harder than most.
Speaking of Messier, how do you think Eakins feels having Mark Messier watching him from the team box? Messier left NYR because he knew he was not going to get the coaching job, maybe Mark should go down and have a little word with him about winning.![]()
Bit of a pathetic thread.
All I will say is actions speak louder than words and from Replacement's comments it would appear all he has done so far is look at the standings and read (not even listen where you might actually get some context as opposed to the media filter on the written word) the post game interviews and not watch a single game.
I was at the game last night, I was 30 feet from where Hall scored those goals. I watched the effort all night and about the only ones who looked like they did not care were the ones who should be battling for that big contract, JShultz and Yakupov (the friggin' Ice Girls skated harder than Nail last night and I am a fan of his but if I were Hall I would take him aside ala Messier and tell him that if he does not start working a bit harder he will have his teammates respect to worry about and not just the coach's).
But sure, like was said above, let's just go back to cliches and not worry about what they really think. I am certain Hall is not "ok" with losing and I guarantee you he works as hard at his job as anyone on these boards and a lot harder than most.
Speaking of Messier, how do you think Eakins feels having Mark Messier watching him from the team box? Messier left NYR because he knew he was not going to get the coaching job, maybe Mark should go down and have a little word with him about winning.![]()
Some guys can look at a white t-shirt and see a black one. Nothing you can do about it
Bit of a pathetic thread.
All I will say is actions speak louder than words and from Replacement's comments it would appear all he has done so far is look at the standings and read (not even listen where you might actually get some context as opposed to the media filter on the written word) the post game interviews and not watch a single game.
I was at the game last night, I was 30 feet from where Hall scored those goals. I watched the effort all night and about the only ones who looked like they did not care were the ones who should be battling for that big contract, JShultz and Yakupov (the friggin' Ice Girls skated harder than Nail last night and I am a fan of his but if I were Hall I would take him aside ala Messier and tell him that if he does not start working a bit harder he will have his teammates respect to worry about and not just the coach's).
But sure, like was said above, let's just go back to cliches and not worry about what they really think. I am certain Hall is not "ok" with losing and I guarantee you he works as hard at his job as anyone on these boards and a lot harder than most.
Speaking of Messier, how do you think Eakins feels having Mark Messier watching him from the team box? Messier left NYR because he knew he was not going to get the coaching job, maybe Mark should go down and have a little word with him about winning.![]()
i know quite a number of KHL players. many of them (even some widely considered stars in this league) aren't that high on winning. most don't watch any hockey, don't think much about other teams or players. i've heard some outright stating that one has had a career once set money-wise.
there really are people that don't have much fight in them, nor they aspire to being the best. some just have it as a given. i may be terribly off with my point as i don't know squat about Canadian players' mentality, but i think that people are much alike all over the world. you need to be a special combination of talent and ambition to become a perennial star, but you can become just a star, being blessed with only one of those.
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Unfortunately I've watched every single game, every countless minute..
Well, you were there so I'll have to take your word that the team looked like it cared a lot about this game. What I saw translated on hdtv screen was the most lacklustre effort of the year and the game where the least amount of players looked to be bringing it. Indeed even from comments of players the team "came out flat".
Watching this game was like trying to take a swig out of a week old bottle of warm cola. My condolences you had to pay admission to see this disgusting performance. From a club that "hates" losing but whose performance suggests they're perfectly fine with it.
I'm just surprised that someone could take something like that and pretend to be a psychologist.
Kinda funny about paying to go. When I go see the Oilers around here I always go to Long Island because the tickets are so cheap, having said that now the team is doing better the seats are not as cheap as they used to be. Last time i went each seat cost $32 and included a hot dog, a drink, beer if you were old enough and parking. Now you just get the seat for $32. I was sitting 5 rows up from ice level in the corner, same seats I always get, they are very good. Gene was standing right next to us. That has got to be one of the cheapest tickets in the league. At MSG those seats would cost $250 each.....