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I want this to remain its own thread. Its of specific concern in what I see are continuing indications of the star players on this club just not getting what it really takes to win consistently.
Also when looking at the specific comments note that this is the entitlement, and half ass attitude that Eakins has to work with every day in "made" NHL players that are guaranteed to be 6M buck men longterm. (I'll bold the silliness.)
http://www.montrealgazette.com/spor...rs+road+woes+continue+with/9050199/story.html
Hall:
The above is the voice of confusion. Hall thinks that the team played well against NJ and was "back on track" with that stinking effort against one of the lousiest clubs in the league (which I stated at the time) Lets go back to that game and the Devils leading 3-0 going into the 3rd and then a miraculous bit of fortune with the Oilers climbing back into that game and actually taking the lead only to have NJ tie the game late. We got a shoot out W. In a horribly played game. Hall thinks that was the club getting back on track. At the time I posted I was very concerned with that win and that some of the losing traits on this club would view that result as progress, as vindication. Now Hall, is subsequently confirming that. He actually does think that was a good game by the club. What Hall seems to be missing is that the club has never been on track this year. They haven't played a good game yet with possible exception of Pittsburgh, or Winnipeg game. sigh.
It gets worse, more from Hall;
Hope, hmmm.
Hall is only correct on the last part. Didn't deserve to Win. How about you hardly ever win a game on the road where you outplayed and outchanced that badly. Reality being the Oilers didn't give themselves much of a chance to win against a pretty lukewarm team with less depth talent in lineup. We should be able to beat the Islanders, we have to be able to win games against this nature of opponent. But somehow an Oiler club that played reasonably against the Pens picks this night to come out flat, very flat I would say. Is anybody else concerned that Hall is stating the club is playing well and just losing? jebus is he a corsicologist now? This team by my reckoning hasn't deserved to win any more than 2 or 3 of the games. Which still makes them a losing team and not playing very well overall. But apparently its good enough for Hall. I detect Horcoff type rational and commentary in this.
Heres some more because Hall keeps giving in the interview;
Nice for Hall to let us know what resides in his brain and that he's, how should I put this, WRONG!!!
"Took control of the game" is grabbing a short term lead? This speaks to being satisfied anytime the club has a lead. Which explains a lot about the lack of apparent motivation this club has sealing the deal in games which it hasn't done once. I"d like to know Halls version of difference between "took control" vs "didn't grab the reins" How does Eakins even have a conversation with this level of thought process. I'd be pulling my hair out, or Halls.
Finally, Hall again;
Next, several post game videos from Eberle could be found on Oilers site where in each post or pregame video he's sitting back relaxed talking about how well the team is playing, things really going their way, outshooting, outplaying opponents and just not getting the W's and breaks. (AT any point I expect a barmaid in a playboy outfit to deliver him his dry martini.) Its not necessary for me to go into detail with Eberle's quotes because he's always saying the same thing. Really, and I'll go one further is that Eberle's translation of "team playing well" really means that he's doing reasonably well padding pts on a team that is in a horrible nosedive. But with Eberle not visibly concerned in the slightest about the clubs fortunes. I'd like to know what Jordan Eberle looks like upset because I'm convinced I've never seen it. Maybe a little more passion and intensity.
This is the nature of 6M *leadership* that Eakins has inherited. These are two stars that without realizing it have bought into losing mentality and learned the script of rationalizing losses and more often than not feeling OK with it.
Good thing Ference is the captain, and smart of Eakins if he realized Hall wasn't ready. Because Hall's certainly not ready to lead this club in a winning direction. Hall right now, and Eberle, don't know what a winning performance even looks like.
Also when looking at the specific comments note that this is the entitlement, and half ass attitude that Eakins has to work with every day in "made" NHL players that are guaranteed to be 6M buck men longterm. (I'll bold the silliness.)
http://www.montrealgazette.com/spor...rs+road+woes+continue+with/9050199/story.html
Hall:
“I don’t know what to say anymore. The losses have just piled up,” said Hall. “It seems like it was just yesterday that we were playing New Jersey and back on track and now the wheels have kind of fallen off. That certainly wasn’t our best effort.
The above is the voice of confusion. Hall thinks that the team played well against NJ and was "back on track" with that stinking effort against one of the lousiest clubs in the league (which I stated at the time) Lets go back to that game and the Devils leading 3-0 going into the 3rd and then a miraculous bit of fortune with the Oilers climbing back into that game and actually taking the lead only to have NJ tie the game late. We got a shoot out W. In a horribly played game. Hall thinks that was the club getting back on track. At the time I posted I was very concerned with that win and that some of the losing traits on this club would view that result as progress, as vindication. Now Hall, is subsequently confirming that. He actually does think that was a good game by the club. What Hall seems to be missing is that the club has never been on track this year. They haven't played a good game yet with possible exception of Pittsburgh, or Winnipeg game. sigh.
It gets worse, more from Hall;
“I just hope it’s the last time we lose for a while because this is pretty tough on us to start the year. We had been feeling like we had been playing pretty well and not getting wins, and now tonight, we came out a little bit flat and we didn’t really deserve to win. It’s tough.”
Hope, hmmm.
Hall is only correct on the last part. Didn't deserve to Win. How about you hardly ever win a game on the road where you outplayed and outchanced that badly. Reality being the Oilers didn't give themselves much of a chance to win against a pretty lukewarm team with less depth talent in lineup. We should be able to beat the Islanders, we have to be able to win games against this nature of opponent. But somehow an Oiler club that played reasonably against the Pens picks this night to come out flat, very flat I would say. Is anybody else concerned that Hall is stating the club is playing well and just losing? jebus is he a corsicologist now? This team by my reckoning hasn't deserved to win any more than 2 or 3 of the games. Which still makes them a losing team and not playing very well overall. But apparently its good enough for Hall. I detect Horcoff type rational and commentary in this.
Heres some more because Hall keeps giving in the interview;
“It was a great feeling to get two goals in a row like that,” said Hall. “We took control of the game there. We just didn’t grab the reins."
Nice for Hall to let us know what resides in his brain and that he's, how should I put this, WRONG!!!
"Took control of the game" is grabbing a short term lead? This speaks to being satisfied anytime the club has a lead. Which explains a lot about the lack of apparent motivation this club has sealing the deal in games which it hasn't done once. I"d like to know Halls version of difference between "took control" vs "didn't grab the reins" How does Eakins even have a conversation with this level of thought process. I'd be pulling my hair out, or Halls.
Finally, Hall again;
Is Hall really asking a question here? Or rhetorical question. Clearly Hall would know the club has only had a two goal lead against Winnipeg. Good for Hall to acknowledge that the Oil ""let the islanders back in the game" Although I don't know that there was a point in the game where the Islanders weren't the better playing club, and weren't in control. Hall somehow seems to disagree.“Have we had more than a two-goal lead since the first of the year? When you’re up like that you really have to shove it down their throats. We let them back in the game.”
Next, several post game videos from Eberle could be found on Oilers site where in each post or pregame video he's sitting back relaxed talking about how well the team is playing, things really going their way, outshooting, outplaying opponents and just not getting the W's and breaks. (AT any point I expect a barmaid in a playboy outfit to deliver him his dry martini.) Its not necessary for me to go into detail with Eberle's quotes because he's always saying the same thing. Really, and I'll go one further is that Eberle's translation of "team playing well" really means that he's doing reasonably well padding pts on a team that is in a horrible nosedive. But with Eberle not visibly concerned in the slightest about the clubs fortunes. I'd like to know what Jordan Eberle looks like upset because I'm convinced I've never seen it. Maybe a little more passion and intensity.
This is the nature of 6M *leadership* that Eakins has inherited. These are two stars that without realizing it have bought into losing mentality and learned the script of rationalizing losses and more often than not feeling OK with it.
Good thing Ference is the captain, and smart of Eakins if he realized Hall wasn't ready. Because Hall's certainly not ready to lead this club in a winning direction. Hall right now, and Eberle, don't know what a winning performance even looks like.
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