Confirmed with Link: Leafs Sign Timothy Liljegren (Rogle says hes not playing there)

[mcpw]

Seen some confusion here about the slide rule and the 50-man limit, so let me clear that up. The 50-man limit is introduced in Article 1 of the CBA ("SPC" is "Standard Player's Contract"):

"Reserve List" means the list of all Players to whom a Club has rights including all Unsigned Draft Choices, all Players signed to an SPC (whether or not currently playing in the NHL), and all Players who have signed an SPC but who have subsequently been returned to Juniors. A Club may have on its Reserve List, at any one time, not more than 90 Players, which shall include the following:
(a) Not more than 50 Players signed to an SPC and not less than 24 Players and 3 goalkeepers under an SPC. Age 18 and age 19 Players who were returned to Juniors, and who have not played 11 NHL Games in one season, shall be exempt from inclusion in the 50 Player limit. Any Club violating this provision shall be liable to loss of draft choices as determined by the Commissioner.

and Juniors is defined as follows:

"Major Juniors" or "Juniors" means the Canadian Hockey League, including the Western Hockey League, Ontario Hockey League and the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League.

This means that Liljegren will count against the 50-man limit unless he is loaned to Niagara.

The "Slide Rule", which can prolong the ELC, is described in Article 9.1 (d):

(i) In the event that an 18 year old or 19 year old Player signs an SPC with a Club but does not play at least ten (10) NHL Games in the first season under that SPC, the term of his SPC and his number of years in the Entry Level System shall be extended for a period of one (1) year, except that this automatic extension will not apply to a Player who is 19 according to Section 9.2 by virtue of turning 20 between September 16 and December 31 in the year in which he first signs an SPC. Unless a Player and Club expressly agree to the contrary, in the event a Player's SPC is extended an additional year in accordance with this subsection, all terms of the SPC, with the exception of Signing Bonuses, but including Paragraph 1 Salary, games played bonuses and Exhibit 5 bonuses, shall be extended; provided, however, that the Player's Paragraph 1 Salary shall be extended in all circumstances.

His contract will "slide" if he doesn't play at least 10 NHL games. This has nothing to do with the 50-man limit.

So, most likely, his contract will slide, but still count against the 50-man limit.

 

[Bullseye]

I think Niagara is the best place for him to develop

 

[embracedbias]

Isn't it almost a foregone conclusion that he plays for the marlies?why use up the roster spot

Because the concern over the # of roster spots is stupid

 

[Canada4Gold]

Seen some confusion here about the slide rule and the 50-man limit, so let me clear that up. The 50-man limit is introduced in Article 1 of the CBA ("SPC" is "Standard Player's Contract"):


and Juniors is defined as follows:


This means that Liljegren will count against the 50-man limit unless he is loaned to Niagara.

The "Slide Rule", which can prolong the ELC, is described in Article 9.1 (d):


His contract will "slide" if he doesn't play at least 10 NHL games. This has nothing to do with the 50-man limit.

So, most likely, his contract will slide, but still count against the 50-man limit.

Thanks. I was looking for this and couldn't find it but was too dumb to look in the Articles. I knew it was in there somewhere.

Don't quote me on this, but I also believe that QO'd count against the limit as well until they've been declined. So Brown's QO would count against the limit to put us at 50 up until the point he declined it. I'd imagine he already has but that's info I don't believe we're privy to with RFA's normally. This is because if they signed 50 other contracts, then an accepted QO would put it at 51 which isn't allowed so they have to leave that room until it's been declined.

This wouldn't matter because we'd likely be leaving a contract spot for Brown anyway, and he's already likely declined it. But just something to note.

 

[mcpw]

This wouldn't matter because we'd likely be leaving a contract spot for Brown anyway, and he's already likely declined it. But just something to note.

A qualifying offer can't be "declined" per se, it just expires on July 15th if the player hasn't accepted it before.

 

[saltming]

I think Niagara is the best place for him to develop

The escarpment is lovely this time of year! And the wine is magnificent!!

I hope they play him with the Marlies. We have one, if not the best development team in hockey. Let's turn this kid into a stud!!!

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Hopefully this means he'll be with the Marlies and not that hot mess Rogle next year.

 

[Warden of the North]

Cool. While I dont overly care where he plays I'd get to see him more on the Marlies.

 

[7even]

I think Niagara is the best place for him to develop

Reeeeeee!

 

[Mr Hockey]

Makes his Leaf debut in 2019-20 season.

 

[Kiwi]

The escarpment is lovely this time of year! And the wine is magnificent!!

I hope they play him with the Marlies. We have one, if not the best development team in hockey. Let's turn this kid into a stud!!!

That's probably where hes going to end up
Third pair with plenty of PP time maybe? Is there an experienced LD to pair him with though?

He'd probably would have ended up back in Sweden if his team wasn't a **** show
I wonder if we could wrangle it so that he goes back to Sweden but to a better organization

 

[BertCorbeau]

But does he get bonuses?

 

[bobermay]

But does he get bonuses?

Up to 400k in performance bonuses...

Not nearly as much as Matthews (2.85), Nylander (0.85), Marner (0.85), Rosen (0.85) or Borgman (0.85).

 

[RomanianLeafs]

congrats kid

 

[The Best Leafs Ever]

Without moving Marincin and/or Marchenko, I don't see Liljegren playing for Marlies this season. We have way too many defensemen on Marlies that needs ToI and I don't see how they can justify taking ToI from any of those Marlies D and give it to Liljegren. I think if he can get similar role to what Nylader got when he went back to SHL, it will be ideal for his development.

 

[TheBigThree]

So ****ing happy, marlies bound?

 

[IBeL34f]

Cool. While I dont overly care where he plays I'd get to see him more on the Marlies.

This is it. This is exactly how I feel about this.

 

[Dog]

obviously brown is out the door now,


to the panicked poster in the brown isn't signed thread

Shakes fist!

 

[rdogg]

I would watch a lot more Marlies games this year if Liljegren is playing for them

 

[Morgs]

So much earlier than Matthews .

Just means that he can come play for the Marlies I believe. Doesn't mean he's going to.

 

[thewave]

Will get a look in camp for Leafs like I said. Mature body, good player, gotta see if he can think at NHL pace.

 

[Trapper]

This is very exciting.
It's all coming together.
Welcome aboard Lily!

 

[TMLFOREVER**]

I'll say it.

In camp he looked very good. May make the big club.

Just sayin'

 

[MapleLeafs9]

Probably going to be like Nylander's development path. Back to Sweden and if it gets bad they'll pull him out of there then put him on the Marlies.

 

[Walshy7]

Seen some confusion here about the slide rule and the 50-man limit, so let me clear that up. The 50-man limit is introduced in Article 1 of the CBA ("SPC" is "Standard Player's Contract"):


and Juniors is defined as follows:


This means that Liljegren will count against the 50-man limit unless he is loaned to Niagara.

The "Slide Rule", which can prolong the ELC, is described in Article 9.1 (d):


His contract will "slide" if he doesn't play at least 10 NHL games. This has nothing to do with the 50-man limit.

So, most likely, his contract will slide, but still count against the 50-man limit.

see this is what i thought, when i was talking to superdave but i didnt know it still counted if he went to sweden