Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign Peter Holland to a 1 year 1.3M contract

Jack Bauer · Jul 25, 2016

Menzinger said:
Good signing.

But I wonder if the fact that 1 he signed only for 1 year and 2 opted for less than 50% of what he would have gotten in arbitration means he was promised a spot in the Leafs lineup....

If he lost his arbitration case he would have got less.

He was never winning his case after clearing waivers.

Crysis · Jul 25, 2016

This guy has flip at the deadline for picks written all over him if not sooner. Hope he goes best mode this season.

Deebo · Jul 25, 2016

Menzinger said:
Good signing.

But I wonder if the fact that 1 he signed only for 1 year and 2 opted for less than 50% of what he would have gotten in arbitration means he was promised a spot in the Leafs lineup....

I doubt he would have got 2.6M+ in arbitration, he asked for 2.1M

Menzinger · Jul 25, 2016

Jack Bauer said:
If he lost his arbitration case he would have got less.

He was never winning his case after clearing waivers.

No guarantee he would have gotten less.

His side had a decent arbitration case - where stats play the biggest factor in the outcome. He probably could have grabbed 1.3-1.5 if he had gone through with it.

Jack Bauer · Jul 25, 2016

Menzinger said:
No guarantee he would have gotten less.

His side had a decent arbitration case - where stats play the biggest factor in the outcome. He probably could have grabbed 1.3-1.5 if he had gone through with it.

Makes a lot of sense then to take the $1.3 without a hearing where you could have ended up under $1mil if the worst happened.

He was never getting above $2mil.

Menzinger · Jul 25, 2016

Deebo said:
I doubt he would have got 2.6M+ in arbitration, he asked for 2.1M

No, but a good chance he could have gotten more than 1.3 per.

Deebo · Jul 25, 2016

Menzinger said:
No, but a good chance he could have gotten more than 1.3 per.

You said he accepted less than 50% of what he would have gotten in arbitration though.

Jack Bauer · Jul 25, 2016

Menzinger said:
No, but a good chance he could have gotten more than 1.3 per.

His agents apparently do not agree or they wouldn't have accepted that figure.

Placing him on waivers was a very smart move.

Menzinger · Jul 25, 2016

Deebo said:
You said he accepted less than 50% of what he would have gotten in arbitration though.

I mis-typed.

Either way I'd wager he's in the Leafs lineup come opening night.

If he though he was going to the Marlies he would have gone to arbitration. There's little reason to think he would have gotten much less than 1.3, especially considering he was on a 34 point pace this past season.

Deebo · Jul 25, 2016

Menzinger said:
I mis-typed.

Either way I'd wager he's in the Leafs lineup come opening night.

If he though he was going to the Marlies he would have gone to arbitration. There's little reason to think he would have gotten much less than 1.3, especially considering he was on a 34 point pace this past season.

I hope they wouldn't promise a player a spot on the roster, especially if it was to save a couple hundred thousand.

Menzinger · Jul 25, 2016

Deebo said:
I hope they wouldn't promise a player a spot on the roster, especially if it was to save a couple hundred thousand.

I suspect some vets like Laich, Lupul, ect won't be Leafs or at least dressed to play in October.

More open spots than many assume.

Deebo · Jul 25, 2016

Menzinger said:
I suspect some vets like Laich, Lupul, ect won't be Leafs or at least dressed to play in October.

More open spots than many assume.

Either way, guaranteeing a spot to a fringe player like Holland is a bad idea.

Menzinger · Jul 25, 2016

Deebo said:
Either way, guaranteeing a spot to a fringe player like Holland is a bad idea.

Maybe.

I'm just brainstorming out loud why he chose to avoid arbitration- but I still feel Leafs will have him in the lineup ahead of some others.

Jimmy Firecracker · Jul 25, 2016

Blech. Could've made due without him. I think we've got guys that could've taken his roster spot just fine.

Canada4Gold · Jul 25, 2016

Menzinger said:
Maybe.

I'm just brainstorming out loud why he chose to avoid arbitration- but I still feel Leafs will have him in the lineup ahead of some others.

I don't understand how it's not obvious. 1.3 is a pretty fair salary. I guess he felt going to arbitration to try to get more wasn't worth the risk of getting less.

IMO he wasn't likely to get much more than this at all.

HellasLEAF · Jul 25, 2016

It's a one year, 1.3 mil/ deal.

Holland can still be a quality useful player with size.

Our cap will get figured out, I just don't see much wrong with it.

Deebo · Jul 25, 2016

Tommy Torini said:
Blech. Could've made due without him. I think we've got guys that could've taken his roster spot just fine.

As soon as they decided to give him a qualifying offer, he was getting a contract. Either awarded one through arbitration, or a settlement prior to the hearing.

Jimmy Firecracker · Jul 25, 2016

Deebo said:
As soon as they decided to give him a qualifying offer, he was getting a contract. Either awarded one through arbitration, or a settlement prior to the hearing.

Yeah, I wish he got picked up on waivers.

jaric1862 · Jul 25, 2016

Hope Michalek Gets traded and sure hope we get vesey. This isnt a terrible deal

mcleex · Jul 25, 2016

I wish we could have just moved on. There are too many bodies right now and IMO he has not taken his game to the next level. If we can trade him for a 3rd then I am happy

rrc1967 · Jul 25, 2016

Jack Bauer said:
His agents apparently do not agree or they wouldn't have accepted that figure.

Placing him on waivers was a very smart move.

Most cases settle prior to hearing.

He got a raise more than the leafs were originally offering on the QO which is the entire point of exercising your arbitration rights.

Brown Dog · Jul 25, 2016

Still would be surprised if this guy is with Leafs on opening night.

rrc1967 · Jul 25, 2016

Mess said:
Lou Lam's brilliant waiving tactic turned a $2.1 mil ask into a $1.3 mil settlement saving the Leafs $800k.

No interest from any team all but destroyed Holland's bargaining power.

However his signing means 1 less roster spot for a young player as I doubt Leafs want to pay Holland that amount to play on the Marlies.

What are you going in about?

Him on waivers would have been inadmissible in a hearing.

He probably wanted around 1.5m, settled on 1.3m..like arbitration cases being settled in between the two values isn't common.. :shakehead

Jack Bauer · Jul 25, 2016

rrc1967 said:
What are you going in about?

Him on waivers would have been inadmissible in a hearing.

He probably wanted around 1.5m, settled on 1.3m..like arbitration cases being settled in between the two values isn't common..

Neither is getting waived a few days before the hearing.

Getting stuck with a deal you don't want and can't walk away from would have been bad.

Perhaps waiving him helped break the ice that led to the avoiding of the hearing. Crazy concept, I know.

yubbers · Jul 25, 2016

Hahahaha

half of asking

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